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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:00 pm

ricky wrote:Iwe tend to create internal conflict (war, mass shootings, third wave feminism).
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I hope that you understand that there have been wars for a very long time. We are living the most peaceful times currently, if we compare amount of the wars.


The US is actually breaking records in ressurecting medieval diseases like measles

"Breaking the records" sounds quite serious, but so far those are just some individual cases.

wonder-ass wrote:banning guns wont fix anything only thing it does is unarm the civilians, plenty of ways to get illegal guns. we live in a good time keep it that way.

If this is true, then why is there much less gun violence in countries like Japan, where gun regulation is strict?
It is logical that when the amount of guns decreases, so does the violence associated to them. You have so many guns that officers have to shoot everybody, because they "might" have a gun. As an example. If you had stricter gun regulations, maybe they could stop assuming that everyone has a gun and stop killing innocent people.
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i can imagine alot of people whos never been to usa thinks there gun fight daily in the streets but thats not true most places never see a gun battle but mabye avoid big citys

USA Is almost one of the only countries in the world that I would avoid going to.

On this topic you first have to ask are you going to remove guns from America- Y/N? Is it even possible? Probably not.

I think this is false.
Of course, not all guns are going to disappear overnight.
But if you first stop selling guns to every single one that wants them (stricter gun control). And then arrange places where you can bring guns voluntarily so they can be destroyed, slowly the amount of guns in circullation will start decreasing.
If you have better solutions? (Add more guns? Armed guards in every classroom?) Feel free to say them.
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:05 pm

MightySheep wrote:On this topic you first have to ask are you going to remove guns from America- Y/N? Is it even possible? Probably not. And for Republicans they definitely dont even want to.

So after establishing that there is always gonna be shit loads of guns in the country, with mentally unstable or criminal people always having that option available to them. Then you gotta ask is it safer or not to arm the good guys?

If you are wanting to shoot up a bunch of people and you walk into a school which sign would you rather see? "Warning: this school has armed guards" or "This school is a weapon free zone".

The reason you never see common sense solutions like this is because idiot lefties are always blocking realistic solutions in the hope of realizing their idealistic vision of getting rid of guns entirely. Which simply isnt going to happen. Youd probably have a Texas uprising if you tried to enforce some shit like that.

And the idiotic righties keep insisting that random civilians pulling out their guns is gonna help the situation. Not only are they untrained, but they're also indistinguishable from the mass shooter (they both look like civilians), so the most likely scenario is that the good guys will start shooting eachother. And when the cops come, they'll shoot all the people with guns first and sort the good from the bad later. Hell, if people at the Vegas concert had guns you'd probably have like 5x higher casualties, and they might be so distracted by shooting at eachother that they wouldn't even notice the gunman at the balcony and he could slip away. Point is, civilian gun use for self defence is sensible in settings where you know everyone, such as home protection, but it's retarded in public areas.
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:10 pm

I think that mighty sheep has the same problem as many other people in usa.
They think that there are only two options that can be made in all things. And both of them on the extreme sides of each other. No place in the middle...
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby azrid » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:03 pm

American schools need armored doors with gun holes and remote controlled turrets in hallways.
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby Potjeh » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:23 pm

You know what's great at keeping out people with guns? Mine fields. You don't even have to make it lethal, just use those little toe poppers.
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby iamahh » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:50 pm

nvm this issue is too complicated
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby VDZ » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:53 pm

MagicManICT wrote:I saw a report on one school that has set up this high tech defense system. All the teachers wear ID fobs that double as emergency signals. There are call boxes in each room the teacher (or anyone) can flip to "need help," "all clear," and has a medic call button. Lines have been laid into the floor with the design of the doors and windows so that everyone knows what the lines of sight are (stay behind the line, nobody can see you through the window). The doors are impregnable without penetration charges. There are hundreds of cameras in the building and all feed into the local sherrif's office. At key points there's a gas system that can be activated to disable a problem situation... Are we sending our kids to schools, or to prisons?


Sounds more like a warzone to me. It's like they EXPECT there to be a school shooting there (or multiple of them).

MightySheep wrote:If you are wanting to shoot up a bunch of people and you walk into a school which sign would you rather see? "Warning: this school has armed guards" or "This school is a weapon free zone".


If I were a student planning to shoot up his school, I wouldn't care either way. My life is over anyways, and I'm so sick of this school that I'm going to fuck it up regardless of how many people here have guns. I doubt school shooters think much about the consequences or make any analysis of how 'safe' it would be to shoot up their school (spoiler: you die or get a life sentence regardless of security level).
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby shubla » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:05 pm

VDZ wrote:If I were a student planning to shoot up his school, I wouldn't care either way. My life is over anyways, and I'm so sick of this school that I'm going to fuck it up regardless of how many people here have guns. I doubt school shooters think much about the consequences or make any analysis of how 'safe' it would be to shoot up their school (spoiler: you die or get a life sentence regardless of security level).

I think that the idea is not to prevent the strikes but instead control the damage. More people wielding guns = the gunman can be stopped sooner. But I do agree with somebody who said what issues come with this above. Who is the shooter if there are like 20 guys all looking the same and wielding guns, pointing, maybe shooting at each other.
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Re: Guns for teachers - The MemePresident

Postby Ysh » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:49 pm

For all teacher to carry gun is probable not good ideas I think. Many teacher I have see will be easily overpower by feral child, even if this teacher have arms. Now feral child have easy access to these gun, and situation may be escalate further. Skillsets for manage these highly stress situation and combat compare to skillsets for teach child does not have many overlapping parts.

If there is issue of feral child killing other child in state ''education'' center, I will sooner to remove these center than to double down with prison security.
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