Human Population Through Time

[neeco]

but honestly, I do not consider any native English speaker a good philosopher.

Honestly, I do not consider anyone who uses default client to have a valid opinion on religion.

"Because you have x-attribute, I feel validated to ignore y-unrelated-attribute"

[rhzk]

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACK2knC08E

Short version is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78 - but the long one is quite interesting in many additional ways.

I think he makes my arguments beautifully, and I have no idea why you attempt to bring this up as some sort of point against me. The programme of modernity -- contraceptives, conscription of females into the capitalist machinery, and increased age of marriage -- reduces fertility. My point exactly.

Your point is: "make new children in young ages fast and many or gods will be mad". But the fact is - people with brains make new generation a bit later and its make a good deal for people's quality of life. Jorbo, do not mislead ppl next time, a man from the video did not confirm your point of view, its just words cut out of context. Your context is not context from this man in the video.

[Potjeh]

Anyway, how many kids have you made so far, Jorb? You're like 35 IIRC, so if it's less than six you're a failure. What are you, some sort of K-selected species?

[Granger]

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FACK2knC08E

Short version is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78 - but the long one is quite interesting in many additional ways.

I think he makes my arguments beautifully, and I have no idea why you attempt to bring this up as some sort of point against me. The programme of modernity -- contraceptives, conscription of females into the capitalist machinery, and increased age of marriage -- reduces fertility. My point exactly.

FYI: I hadn't read any of your posts in this topic prior to posting these links.

[sMartins]

"Because you have x-attribute, I feel validated to ignore y-unrelated-attribute"

With the exception, in my case, that they are not unrelated. But ok, I will survive.

EDIT:
Just to explain, cause it may looks a bit rude. I don't think any americans would consider any italian basket ball teams that good compared with your NBA teams.
Same thing, I think the same about philosopers, you (and also brits) lack in traditions and also your own language has a very rigid stand about what reality is.

[neeco]

in my case, that they are not unrelated.

Please do elaborate for me.

[sMartins]

in my case, that they are not unrelated.

Please do elaborate for me.

Well, you have to understand first of all that philosophers talks to people, to the community. So of course I'm not saying I consider the native English man less capable of others. That would be dumb and racist. Of course English people can study Greeks or Germans as well. But, generally, philosopers that talks to English communities are less rated than others, like the basket ball team example. This cause your overall comprehension and tradition about the matter is not particularly developed.
That's it ... nothing too weird. If I need to send a man on a very cold planet, I will send an Inuit, not an African .....

[rhzk]

That's it ... nothing too weird. If I need to send a man on a very cold planet, I will send an Inuit, not an African .....

You now compared biology with culture. Why? Of course, culture affects the brain. But do not compare different things. Otherwise, according to your logic, English-speakers PHYSICALLY are less capable of philosophy. Which is not true.

[sMartins]

That's it ... nothing too weird. If I need to send a man on a very cold planet, I will send an Inuit, not an African .....

You now compared biology with culture. Why? Of course, culture affects the brain. But do not compare different things. Otherwise, according to your logic, English-speakers PHYSICALLY are less capable of philosophy. Which is not true.

Well, in part it's true .... I know we live in an era of "politically correct", but those are bullshits, not the truth.

If you grown up in a context where you're used to certain things and not to others your brain will change according to that, so, it would be overall harder to change how you look at certain things.
In case, the difference in the context comprehends also physical changes, like weather, hot and cold, not only our brain will change but also our body.

I would bet with you 100 dollars if we pick a random guy in Italy vs a random guy in USA, the italian guy would be overall more capable to talk with a philosoper than the american guy. Cause the language, cause the context, cause the tradition, cause how we envision the world.

And on the other side, the American guy overall will be more capable to talk about some other stuff.

That's why diversity is important.

[neeco]

I take a couple issues with this. First off, you've switched from "English speaking" to "American". Those groups, while not mutually exclusive are not identical; there are Americans who do not speak English and there are English-speakers who are not American.

Secondly, we are not talking about random people. We are talking about philosophers.

While I agree with you that being politically correct is sometimes (frequently?) bullshit, being small-minded enough to discount the works of a large and diverse group of philosophers simply based on their primary language is worse.