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Re: america and guns

Postby 2d0x » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:53 pm

AntiBlitz wrote:...ironically, our country's president is an isolationist, so...

I am just curious about how many goods in the United States are actually produced in the United States (and not, say, China, Mexico, etc.).
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Re: america and guns

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:48 pm

2d0x wrote:
AntiBlitz wrote:...ironically, our country's president is an isolationist, so...

I am just curious about how many goods in the United States are actually produced in the United States (and not, say, China, Mexico, etc.).

Depends on what you mean by "Made in <country X>." Is everything sourced and processed in that country only? For food, yeah, the US has huge exports to other countries: rice, corn (and by-products), soy, wheat, vegetables, fruits. We also import a lot of food, too, especially fruits and vegetables. Most of the world relies very heavily on a regional, if not global, food supply.

For manufactured goods, well, that's a different story. China is pretty close to the top in metal processing. From what I've read on the subject (and I was looking into mining and metal stocks a while back), it was cheaper to ship scrap to China and buy back refined metal than mine it or process it anywhere else. There were a few other countries identified as being potential growth locations, but it'd be a decade, and require some "regime changes" to make the location friendlier to industrial growth. (mostly in Africa, where China is trying to invest heavily.... I think they'll learn like we have: you just can't push national thinking onto people who still think tribally, let alone internal or global cooperation.) US corporations have spread out to a wide variety of countries when it comes to sourcing materials, though, as it's cheaper. For quite a few things, it's just cheaper for a wide variety of reasons: education, reliable supply chain, reliable workforce, etc etc.

Also, Trump is far from an isolationist. He likes to talk a big talk to his base, but he's buddies with some very rich Russians. A lot of people don't want to believe it, but the truth is pretty evident if you have even an inkling of what to look for.

AntiBlitz wrote:if we get back to the gun chat tho, like hands down, i put a gun in your hands, and i damn near guarantee you couldnt hit shit, its not like the movies boys, it requires a little more finesse then you may think.

And yet it isn't hard to learn. Even the biggest idiot can learn to fire a gun straight... that's why they get assigned to infantry when a draft comes around. Sniping a rabbit at 50 yards out with a .22 and no scope? Hard. (Hard because that's about the distance the rabbit has enough time to jump from the sound of the gun if your aim is off just even a hair... :P I've missed more than a few shots cause the rabbit bolted, and I could see a bullet strike right where the rabbit was at. ) Shooting your rifle in an orderly manner to suppress enemy troops? Not so hard. Using a truck-mounted machine gun to fire on an enemy position? Don't know... never been there, but to hear my uncle talk of it (Vietnam), it takes more balls than skill.
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Re: america and guns

Postby 2d0x » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:01 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
2d0x wrote:I am just curious about how many goods in the United States are actually produced in the United States (and not, say, China, Mexico, etc.).

Depends on what you mean by "Made in <country X>." Is everything sourced and processed in that country only? For food...

More interested in goods, not foods:
Trev wrote:...We send out huge amounts of machinery, electronics, commercial aircraft & vehicles...


MagicManICT wrote:...he's buddies with some very rich Russians...

It has no weight. These are just people, but not a nation.

MagicManICT wrote:...And yet it isn't hard to learn. Even the biggest idiot can learn to fire a gun straight... that's why they get assigned to infantry when a draft comes around. Sniping a rabbit at 50 yards out with a .22 and no scope? Hard. (Hard because that's about the distance the rabbit has enough time to jump from the sound of the gun if your aim is off just even a hair... :P I've missed more than a few shots cause the rabbit bolted, and I could see a bullet strike right where the rabbit was at. ) Shooting your rifle in an orderly manner to suppress enemy troops? Not so hard. Using a truck-mounted machine gun to fire on an enemy position? Don't know... never been there, but to hear my uncle talk of it (Vietnam), it takes more balls than skill.

If I understood AntiBlitz correctly, he wrote about responsibility, not about the ability to shoot. It's one thing to shoot tin cans and quite another to shoot people.
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Re: america and guns

Postby shubla » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:39 am

Guns are easy to use, point at the target, press the trigger.

I dont see how that is related to the topic of the thread though!!


I would also like to remind that china is the biggest exporter these days. USA also imports more stuff than it exports. World would not really miss them if usa was embargoed, but they would suffer a lot.
Pretty much only thing that usa exports more than it imports are airplanes, because there arent that many companies that make airplanes and boeing happens to be the biggest at the moment. BUT this is probably about to change! Russia and China for example have done a lot of promising work on new commercial airplanes, which may soon start taking the cut from boeing. Also there is airbus which would gladly take the boeings cut from the market, if something bad were happen to usa!!

I am assuming that majority of those imported aircrafts are for commercial use, not military.
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Re: america and guns

Postby shubla » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:39 am

exported aircrafts that is!
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Re: america and guns

Postby Kirche » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:44 am

shubla wrote:Many americans say that americans like to have guns because they can defend from government if it turns against them.
I heard that your government has shut down and thousands of people are now starving, because their salaries are not being paid!
Why dont you take your guns and do something?

Stupid americans!

they should get real jobs then lmao
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Re: america and guns

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:40 am

who else in america gets a one month paid vacation? Sure, you might have to wait a few weeks to get that check, but you get something nobody else gets!
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Re: america and guns

Postby Fostik » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:42 am

shubla wrote:Stupid americans!


Before talking about other countries please prove Finland exists.
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Re: america and guns

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:35 pm

Fostik wrote:
shubla wrote:Stupid americans!


Before talking about other countries please prove Finland exists.

Ok, don't be an ass like shubla. We all now it exists. The question is: is Finland relevant to world politics? Do they even want to be? If not, what does any of their citizens care about what the rest of the world?

Finland does have one thing going for them currently: best schools in the world. We could learn a lesson or two from them.
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Re: america and guns

Postby azrid » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:46 pm

Its usually a Russian or an American who gleefully reveal themselves as geographically challenged even if its only a joke.
I am curious if they realize they are the thing that gets laughed at by anyone thats not a political normie.
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