democracy is a huge circlejerk

[Saxony4]

Dictatorships usually rest on an ideological foundation of some idea of popular sovereignty, i.e. democracy.

The true and good form of government is monarchy.

And Monarchy is not a dictatorship?

The only good form of government is no government. Live free or die.

[2d0x]

The only good form of government is no government. Live free or die.

This is anarchy.

[jorb]

Consider these choice counter points:

• A monarchy is not accountable to its citizens
• We are citizens

Consider these

• The "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" problem is not solvable. All ultimate power is in a sense unaccountable, by definition of what ultimate power is.
• Democracy maintains the illusion that distinctions between subjects and rulers has disappeared under it. The distinction has in fact only grown stronger.

[jorb]

I highly doubt you're a pius religious person when it doesn't suit you. Nice larping tho.

Abusus non tollit usum. My piety is not in question here.

There haven't been too many monarchs with a nobel prize for peace either.

No, but plenty of dictators and scoundrels. The ultimate joke.jpeg was perhaps when they gave Henry Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize, or when they gave it to Obama because he was black, while the drones were still flying low over Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, &c.

Also, sainthood ain't what it's cracked up to be

Abusus non tollit usum. You do not invalidate sainthood by finding people perhaps erroneously considered saints.

[MagicManICT]

when they gave it to Obama because he was black, while the drones were still flying low over Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, &c.

Yeah, he definitely could have ended that program not long after entering office, though I'd hardly say it was "because he was black." There already had a couple of prominent Africans win it, as well as Ghandi, who would have received it had he not been assassinated. In addition, Obama had been in office less than a year and it was the height of the conflict in the Middle East. Given the attitudes in the Middle East at the time, and it being one of his campaign promises, you can't expect such a thing to end abruptly. It certainly didn't start abruptly.

But I think I made this point above about the credit of the Nobel Peace Prize. Some of the recipients well deserve it because they really have been trying to make the world a better place their whole life. Others squeeze in there because they turned some things around. Some, I think, should have been disqualified based on the fact they helped engender (or at least ignored) the problem that they ended up getting the prize for. High school debate teams have been going round and round on this for decades now.

[dullah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEtmZKE5jhw

Very interesting video material, about state of democracy in France.
It's in French, but you can activate your language subs.

[Embers]

The worst misconception people tend to have when hearing the world "democracy" is that they assume they are a part of the "demos", the people in this system. The reality is that the country's elite are the "demos" in democracy, and the government acts according to their interests, as a government should.

[Avu]

Democracy in Romania is a joke except it's manipulated and controlled by the european/globalist interests and a such is all ok nothing to see here citizen move along. There's a bunch of useful idiots, corporate drones who only experience reality through facebook and their little bubbles, moved by foreign interest agitators. At the same time both the opposition parties and probably half of the ruling party leaders are deep in the pockets of foreign interests with the dear leader (the president) being a puppet extraordinaire whose only job at this point is to delay obstruct and fuck with whatever the government tries to do.

Whenever Romania gets brought up at the EU level it's always in a negative light and we should maintain the anti-corruption fight which if you're not a mouth breather realize it's just another wording for a targeted extermination of any Romanian controlled businesses to make room for foreign capital (which are NEVER EVER corrupt, people that take bribes are investigated the foreign companies that give them aren't touched as an example).

There is talks now to choose an European Prosecutor and who ends up on the very short list? Romanians ex anti corruption chief prosecutor. Except she was fired by the minister of justice for lots of shit and is now being under investigation for false statements, abuse in office and some other stuff. Nobody in Romania nominated her for the function and surprise surprise Germany voted for her instead of voting for the german dude. Anywhere else sane in the world someone under criminal investigation would not put forth their candidacy for a job where integrity is related let alone be considered. But hey democracy.

[2d0x]

Democracy in Romania is a joke...

Democracy is always and everywhere a joke.

[Potjeh]

Also, sainthood ain't what it's cracked up to be

Abusus non tollit usum. You do not invalidate sainthood by finding people perhaps erroneously considered saints.

Why not, tho? We can agree that giving peace prize to the likes of Kissinger undermines Nobel Committee as a moral authority, why is Catholic Church any different? And it isn't just who they grant sainthood, either, it also has a lot of blood on it's hands. And it's not like majority of saints were given sainthood for doing objectively good things - most of them have become saints for converting people to Christianity. How is replacing native culture with foreign one, often at swordpoint, objectively good?