Are we going to get a World expansion?

[Enjoyment]

Well, if you are that misantropic, just consider that peoples are some sort of boars or lynx, I'm sure you can tune your lient to show them like that.

Again, Im fine with the new world-size. For now. And the only reason - I was on my day-off at Thr and Fri, so I was building my brickwall on week-end. But I don't really think newbies will be lucky. I could tell you my story of w8 -I saw a game on youtube - tried it in - and understand nothing. So I look some more videos, read the forum and saw http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40714. I read it from A to Z and even than I played for a month with opened guide and wiki (that was 90% outdated). And funny thing - most of the survival advices can be simplified to one statement - avoid the strangers... And that advice was really helpful - I didn't loose any of my chars at w8. And I did have like a dozen of live heighbours. And we did communicate. And that was like an 8 hour of walking from starting zone (it was a third my base). And what now?
How could I avoid stranger? Build a wall? Ok, I built it, now what? Sit at your base? Very funny gameplay.. Go out there? I can't - cause there are 20 hearthlings in one single map-grid... Should I trust them? Ok, Im dead, and now what?

[simimi]

You are dead, and now you respawn, eat some curios and all is good again.

[earllohst]

[Ok, Im dead, and now what?

Now forum time!

Back to initial discussion world expansion would be great but it's up to jorbtar really to pull it he can check on players progress and overall look of the map and population. I'm sure they have this covered when it looks like the map is too overcrowded we might get world expansion.

I remember on previous world not sure which one but the map gets expanded without reset.

[boshaw]

But it is still a single-player MMO, so I should be provided with an option to play it single.

[abt79]

OK, for everyone.
I know that H&H is MMO... Ok
But it is still a single-player MMO, so I should be provided with an option to play it single.
And now it is much harder to do this, than in w8.

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Single player MMO?
Get a load of this guy

[NeoBasilisk]

Well, if you are that misantropic, just consider that peoples are some sort of boars or lynx, I'm sure you can tune your lient to show them like that.

Again, Im fine with the new world-size. For now. And the only reason - I was on my day-off at Thr and Fri, so I was building my brickwall on week-end. But I don't really think newbies will be lucky. I could tell you my story of w8 -I saw a game on youtube - tried it in - and understand nothing. So I look some more videos, read the forum and saw http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40714. I read it from A to Z and even than I played for a month with opened guide and wiki (that was 90% outdated). And funny thing - most of the survival advices can be simplified to one statement - avoid the strangers... And that advice was really helpful - I didn't loose any of my chars at w8. And I did have like a dozen of live heighbours. And we did communicate. And that was like an 8 hour of walking from starting zone (it was a third my base). And what now?
How could I avoid stranger? Build a wall? Ok, I built it, now what? Sit at your base? Very funny gameplay.. Go out there? I can't - cause there are 20 hearthlings in one single map-grid... Should I trust them? Ok, Im dead, and now what?

There is a good point that you are getting towards, and that is that the culture of the Haven community is largely one of victim-blaming. It is assumed that people will raid and murder and that you deserve it if you don't take every possible step to protect yourself.

And yes, you are correct in your assessment that the single biggest factor in extending the life of your character is to avoid contact with other players. Even if 80% of all contacts are friendly, those are not very good odds in a perma-death game.

Just look up old posts from World 8 (unless they are all purged). What was the #1 piece of advice given to people who didn't want to be raided/killed? It was walk for 6 hours and settle somewhere unpopulated.

[Astarisk]

I think that the tight map allows the flaws of haven to show through quicker so that they can be solved.
Isolation just means the problems are hidden.

Pretty much this.

[Raffeh]

I vote for no map extension. I enjoy meeting people in the water ways.

We have now turnt over a new lead and we have some newbies/hermits under our protection. It honestly feels like a nice change and even the trading seems better. More traveling to a village in the world than traveling for hours to a middle point. Blah blah so tedious!

So yeah keep the world small

[Orcling]

I vote for no map extension. I enjoy meeting people in the water ways.

We have now turnt over a new lead and we have some newbies/hermits under our protection. It honestly feels like a nice change and even the trading seems better. More traveling to a village in the world than traveling for hours to a middle point. Blah blah so tedious!

So yeah keep the world small

Lets not forget that half the population will quit by the end of the first month.

[Kalacia]

I vote for no map extension. I enjoy meeting people in the water ways.

We have now turnt over a new lead and we have some newbies/hermits under our protection. It honestly feels like a nice change and even the trading seems better. More traveling to a village in the world than traveling for hours to a middle point. Blah blah so tedious!

So yeah keep the world small

Lets not forget that half the population will quit by the end of the first month.

Pretty much.... I say we should wait for an expand. Maybe mid world. Give the old girl a new lease of life later on.