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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby ekzarh » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:27 pm

Teleskop wrote:i wonder what would burinn do in poland where she would be propably a housewife that would have to cook pierogi and theres no muslims too xD

I wonder what she would do in Yemen, where everybody is muslim =)
She would probably enjoy living life where she can be sold or bought and cannot go outside without closes male relative permission, dress what she wants, eat what she wants, work where she wants, drink what she wants...
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Mafious » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:06 pm

Savori wrote:
Adder1234 wrote:You all need to learn that the key to enjoying life is not being bothered by other peoples opinions. And I don't mean not respecting other peoples opinions, I mean if someone says something that insults you in anyway, just think, "Well I don't care" and then go and do whatever you were about to do before they insulted you.


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Muslim here. This whole Genie/ Jinn story made me rofl. Sadly, speaking truth, the art of communicating with Jinns together with Black magic has vanished altogether from the Arab world right now. Though the practise is shunned by secular Muslims and the religion, its still practised by some underground sorcerers called "Babas" who claim that they have the powers to manipulate Jinns for solving domestic disputes.



you really fucked up, first you let those isis fucks sully the name of your religion, and then you stop talking to jinns, you people need to get your shit togheter.

also if you ever found a jinn try to ask for another jinn maybe its a loophole in the infinite wishes thing.
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby SmackMcBacon » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:31 pm

Mafious wrote:you really fucked up, first you let those isis fucks sully the name of your religion, and then you stop talking to jinns, you people need to get your shit togheter.

How is following the Quran, Haddith and Sira to the letter is sullying a religion? If anything they are honouring the Prophet's words and wishes. You must understand that the Islam is truly a religion of peace and love....but only if everyone follows the right faith ;)
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ChildhoodObesity wrote:not all want 2 live a boring simple life xddd

My life isn't boring, but it is simple and all that means is that I never have to worry about anything beyond whats happening right here and now.

Alot of people in '33 up to '39 had exacly the same mindset as you have now. Things didn't turn out so good for most of the populace.
On the other hand, maybe you are right..
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Back on topic though. I do wonder if Ysh survived his encounter with this genie. I hope and like to think i saved him from making a terrible choice that would affect the rest of his eternal existence. Salami like em brothers and sisters :lol:
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Mafious » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:02 pm

SmackMcBacon wrote:
Mafious wrote:you really fucked up, first you let those isis fucks sully the name of your religion, and then you stop talking to jinns, you people need to get your shit togheter.

How is following the Quran, Haddith and Sira to the letter is sullying a religion? If anything they are honouring the Prophet's words and wishes. You must understand that the Islam is truly a religion of peace and love....but only if everyone follows the right faith ;)
Adder1234 wrote:
ChildhoodObesity wrote:not all want 2 live a boring simple life xddd

My life isn't boring, but it is simple and all that means is that I never have to worry about anything beyond whats happening right here and now.

Alot of people in '33 up to '39 had exacly the same mindset as you have now. Things didn't turn out so good for most of the populace.
On the other hand, maybe you are right..
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Back on topic though. I do wonder if Ysh survived his encounter with this genie. I hope and like to think i saved him from making a terrible choice that would affect the rest of his eternal existence. Salami like em brothers and sisters :lol:


islam right now its a mix between cultists of today and the catholic church of the middle ages, as with everything words in a book can be interpreted in many ways depending on the intentions of the one reading it. islam wasn't like that and it can change again.
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby SmackMcBacon » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:17 pm

Mafious wrote:islam right now its a mix between cultists of today and the catholic church of the middle ages, as with everything words in a book can be interpreted in many ways depending on the intentions of the one reading it. islam wasn't like that and it can change again.

I dont really understand what interpretation you speak of, can you show me an example? Most religious books are very clear in their message and rules. Sure, The 'stories' can have multiple meanings and interpretations if you will. The rules and law of God are pretty clear and according to the text there is hardly any/no room for interpretation.

I'd also love to learn on how islam wasn't like that and it can change again. The history books show different things.
Please illuminate me, i'd love to hear. I was thinking that Islam was always 'like that' and it is finally changing, having it's cultural and religious 'rennaissance', because of all the crap that has happened in those lands governed by Sharia law these past decades. I thought it happened during the Arab Spring, unfortunatly you can see how that turned out, only more extremism. I keep hoping though :)...or praying, whatever you fancy.
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Teleskop » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:43 pm

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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Mafious » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:46 pm

SmackMcBacon wrote:
Mafious wrote:islam right now its a mix between cultists of today and the catholic church of the middle ages, as with everything words in a book can be interpreted in many ways depending on the intentions of the one reading it. islam wasn't like that and it can change again.

I dont really understand what interpretation you speak of, can you show me an example? Most religious books are very clear in their message and rules. Sure, The 'stories' can have multiple meanings and interpretations if you will. The rules and law of God are pretty clear and according to the text there is hardly any/no room for interpretation.

I'd also love to learn on how islam wasn't like that and it can change again. The history books show different things.
Please illuminate me, i'd love to hear. I was thinking that Islam was always 'like that' and it is finally changing, having it's cultural and religious 'rennaissance', because of all the crap that has happened in those lands governed by Sharia law these past decades. I thought it happened during the Arab Spring, unfortunatly you can see how that turned out, only more extremism. I keep hoping though :)...or praying, whatever you fancy.


the arabs were at the forefront of science and technology when europe was a starving bunch of illiterate idiots burning people alive for having the gall of building in stone (because only the house of god could be made of stone) and that kind of thing. think around the V to XIII centuries b.c. meanwhile on the other side of the mediterranean the muslims were studiying copying and translanting stuff like platon and aristoteles among other motherfuckers that practically invented western civilization building awesome stuff, etc. the thing is between the crusades the mongols fucked the balance of power and old grudges held in check by the empire (kind of like happened to ancient rome) were flaming on again, this political mess and war and shit gave rise to warlords and religious extremist and the problem was made even worse with the expansion of the european empires the discovery of america and all that because now it wasn't needed to deal with the middle east to establish trade routes with india and stuff.

for more info check out (if you're interested in) General History of Civilization, its a collection of seven books coordinated by a french historian named Maurice Crouzet.
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:58 pm

Is it even possible to think of a loophole abuse against a genie/djinn that has been in their profession for...a really long time?

Also, how exactly would wishes even work? Does it create the entity out of nothing or does something has to be taken/changed for the wish to be fulfilled?
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Ysh » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:28 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Is it even possible to think of a loophole abuse against a genie/djinn that has been in their profession for...a really long time?

I am not know. But I do know Haven forum is great thinking tank. If some men can figure out this loopholes, it is our grouping here.
Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Also, how exactly would wishes even work? Does it create the entity out of nothing or does something has to be taken/changed for the wish to be fulfilled?

I do not know how this wish does work. This level of physics is above my understanding of this physics field. Maybe you will asking university professor?
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Re: Beating This Genie

Postby Mafious » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:28 pm

Patchouli_Knowledge wrote:Is it even possible to think of a loophole abuse against a genie/djinn that has been in their profession for...a really long time?

Also, how exactly would wishes even work? Does it create the entity out of nothing or does something has to be taken/changed for the wish to be fulfilled?


the general concesus is that its created out of nothing because magic.
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