Touching movie about transsexual man - is transexualism bad?

[shubla]

gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and should be treated as such by family members, the culture surrounding it is just sad, so many people who kill themselves because they don't get the help that they need.

Life is survival of the fittest still.
Ones with bad genes will get them out of the pool.
Many people are suffering in the world and that is the way it is and will be.

I also dont get why people think that freedom IS always good. More freedom = better.
Maybe its years of propaganda.

[Ysh]

gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and should be treated as such by family members, the culture surrounding it is just sad, so many people who kill themselves because they don't get the help that they need.

Life is survival of the fittest still.
Ones with bad genes will get them out of the pool.
Many people are suffering in the world and that is the way it is and will be.

I also dont get why people think that freedom IS always good. More freedom = better.
Maybe its years of propaganda.

I do not think many people think this one. Most people give up certain freedom by choice. For example, I give up freedom to kill men so that men do not kill me.

[ChildhoodObesity]

hehe i dont think we should encourage these mentally ill people to mutilate their bodies

[LadyV]

Do I really need personal experience with alcoholism or drug abuse to make the statement that we shouldn't actively be encouraging such behaviors? I'm not necessarily comparing them to transsexualism, mind you; just saying that there just may, perhaps, exist behaviors that we may speak of without having to engage in them ourselves.

There is no end of things that pretty much everyone admits are unsound obsessions: such things as gambling addiction, sex addiction, excessive web browsing, and what not else. How can you say with such convinced certainty that gender obsession is not among these things?

The main point is really not that transsexuals are evil and should be punished for their misdeeds. If you had a gambling addict among your kin, wouldn't you want to help him? Even if he is convinced that gambling is the only thing that makes him happy? Especially then?

Yes you do need experience. Otherwise you only have an opinion. The fact that a person feels the way they do is not something you can disagree with because you are not them. You are not living their lives or experiencing their feelings and emotions. Everyone has a sense of who they are. Sometimes it is confused mostly due to society not understanding anything beyond the majority. Does it make it any less valid? No! The misconception that the majority is the only proper way is bad thought. People are different and sexuality is diverse and so is gender identity.

Now that being said I will concede some people make mistakes or are confused but that does not apply to the whole. As such each and every person must be allowed the freedom to explore who they are and identify with.

As for your comment on sexual addiction you should read current studies. It has recently come out its not an addiction but a compulsion. If a compulsion crosses to a point of interfering in functioning on anything beyond that obsession then it is a problem. Sexuality is a sense of being not an obsession or a compulsion.

[LadyV]

hehe i dont think we should encourage these mentally ill people to mutilate their bodies

Mutilate...so what do we do with people who pierce themselves, get tattoos, plastic surgery, circumcision....

Mutilate is subjective to the perspective. An accident can mutilate an arm. The surgical correction of ones gender is a choice to attempt to balance ones identity.

[razfen]

why is this thread not locked yet?

[boreial]

Applauds LadyV, Well spoken on both posts, it always makes me smile when an intelligent response is given.

[jorb]

Some people have the subjective belief that they are ugly, and that suicide is the only way out.

I disagree, and so does any decent person, and thus we can drop the entire discussion on subjective solipsism of identity. There are plenty of cases where the only right and loving thing to do is to question another persons self-identifications and beliefs. Watching people lose themselves in delusions is not by any necessity an act of love -- neglect, indifference, and personal comfort are equally likely motivations -- and in no other case would you consider it as such. The "free will of the soul" can obviously be lost to a thousand vices, snares of the world, and psychological conditions, and several of these are -- rightly -- met with societal disapproval.

[shubla]

Some people have the subjective belief that they are ugly, and that suicide is the only way out.

In the age of internet being ugly does not mean you can not do things.

[iamahh]

I think if you're an adult, whatever... but also think humans need to put effort into not being auto-centered, find interests that it's not your self, afterall we can view ourselves as part of a great unity, including everything...

science is working for me in this aspect... for example i find very interesting latest developments, like the chances of a holographic universe:
http://www.sciencealert.com/this-might- ... a-hologram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgIl-qIklU

i find funny people who thinks this weakens their religion, I was myself very fervorous christian once, and i still think theres something out there that may very well be named god, or matrix, or whatever you name it, it's there, doesn't matter what you name it... maybe it influenced mankind through morality, maybe not... doesn't matter... i find very timeless what Jesus said "truth shall set you free"... science is revealing "truth" little by little to us, and if you're open to it, it's very exciting and maybe a good reason to escape your inner loop and reach out

/rambling