H&H violating GDPR?

[MagicManICT]

Much like posting something on imgur or another site, there's not much they can do after that if people copy and share it elsewhere. I'd say the same standard applies to something a player has made in game where others can manipulate or otherwise take some measure of control of it. The big difference is that this is a closed system, so some system could be devised to root out such things.*

Another issue is the concept of account deletion. I don't think it's been done in the past at all. It might need to be addressed in some manner.

*additionally: The thought occurs to me if such "personal data" would be their image on something like a shield, knarr sail, etc where they might intentionally sell it or trade it off, but may unintentionally get it stolen or otherwise removed from their "possession" involuntarily. Would deletion of such items be fair in the game? Might it be better that a warning is given that personal data shared into the game space may not be recoverable or deleteable?

[loftar]

You forgot about 'storage of data' being defined as 'processing' it.

Nevertheless, I cannot imagine eg. GMail being charged with trying to index all the potential personal data in free-form text in all the mails people have stored. It's just too difficult and onerous, and would very arguably just leave privacy even worse off. I would have to assume that if GMail users receive personal data in e-mail and store it on their GMail accounts, it's the responsibility of those users to comply with the GDPR, not Google's. If this were not the case, it would mean the end of every little phpBB community in the world. (Not that it wouldn't be the end-game of the NWO to push everyone onto the big discussions platforms such as Facebook and eliminate all unmonitored discussion, of course, but I don't think they'd do that right now via the GDPR, at least.)

[sMartins]

We are driving blind ... there's no way of telling what the effects of scientific and technological findings will be.
The average knowledge of people is too far away from our actually possibilities ... and this, how you can imagine, it's not good.
In short, we are too dumb for our era .... and, at this level, it's the first time in human history.

[MagicManICT]

We are driving blind ... there's no way of telling what the effects of scientific and technological findings will be.
The average knowledge of people is too far away from our actually possibilities ... and this, how you can imagine, it's not good.
In short, we are too dumb for our era .... and, at this level, it's the first time in human history.

I don't even...

We're just fine. Don't project your personal insights and issues onto others? (Don't mean to come off rude, but not really sure how else to put it to make it all flowery and nice.) The problem is fixable. The issue with with people who don't understand the art of the con (deal) just like it always has been. Snake oil salesmen will always prosper until they're found out.

[Granger]

You forgot about 'storage of data' being defined as 'processing' it.

GMail

Gmail could wipe the account and associated stored data and be done with it. Question is: will you (or would be able to, technically) wipe data from the server when requested by a GDPR request? Should the answer be 'no' it would be imho a good idea to come up with a privacy policy that clearly states that this won't happen for (whatever legally sound) reason.

Especial in memories of Hafen launch night and the amount of your users with (to put it nicely) questionable morals (per default or when triggered).

[sMartins]

I don't even...

We're just fine. Don't project your personal insights and issues onto others? (Don't mean to come off rude, but not really sure how else to put it to make it all flowery and nice.) The problem is fixable. The issue with with people who don't understand the art of the con (deal) just like it always has been. Snake oil salesmen will always prosper until they're found out.

I'm agree with you on that regard ... but nowdays it's more complex than that. When we discovered the wheel, we were able to predict its results and usages. Yeah, we were able to build war machines and so on with the wheel ... but always limited usages on a small scale.
Now, we are able to clone living organism, to build atomic weapons, to destroy a whole country economy, etc .. etc ... and we don't have any ethics, that works, up with our era. Ideas are what always had driven humanity, and right now we can do way more than what we can think of. That's the big deal.

[Jalpha]

Seems almost like how facebook chat messages work. One you put anything in there, you can delete a copy, the recipients can delete theirs but facebook servers keep the message.

Like they own what you have said after you say it.

[DatSheep]

Seems almost like how facebook chat messages work. One you put anything in there, you can delete a copy, the recipients can delete theirs but facebook servers keep the message.

Like they own what you have said after you say it.

Heh, I remember a dean from my middle school saying that the school could procure print-outs of questionable facebook conversations if needed. Was for finding evidence of cyber-bullying, maybe cheating rings? Kind of messed up to be looking through a minor's PMs, then again sometimes necessary.

Facebook and similar websites, in my mostly uneducated opinion, are going to be expected to keep records of correspondence for purposes such as finding terrorist group recruiters, identifying said recruiters' tactics, or obtaining relevant evidence (motives, time of interaction, etc) for an investigation.

[shubla]

Seems almost like how facebook chat messages work. One you put anything in there, you can delete a copy, the recipients can delete theirs but facebook servers keep the message.

Like they own what you have said after you say it.

It is data that one is willingly giving to them. Why should they not "own" it?
One has to probably even agree terms of usage before using the site, where they tell what they use it for.

If I see somebody wearing red pants and walking on the street, I own the information. It is not intellectual property of the guy walking in red pants or something stupid like that. I don't need his permission to use it for stuff.

[MagicManICT]

Heh, I remember a dean from my middle school saying that the school could procure print-outs of questionable facebook conversations if needed. Was for finding evidence of cyber-bullying, maybe cheating rings? Kind of messed up to be looking through a minor's PMs, then again sometimes necessary.

Facebook and similar websites, in my mostly uneducated opinion, are going to be expected to keep records of correspondence for purposes such as finding terrorist group recruiters, identifying said recruiters' tactics, or obtaining relevant evidence (motives, time of interaction, etc) for an investigation.

I'm not sure what agreements Facebook or other sites have made towards school officials when minors are involved, but when it comes to legal issues, they're usually pretty insistent upon proper warrants being served before digging up records that aren't publicly viewable. The administrator might have just been blowing smoke... still, anyone that has half a brain keeps any activity that should be "secret" off social media, but we all know most teenagers don't even have half a brain.

For the latter part of your post... that varies by jurisdiction. Why would they be expected to keep it, though, unless the data has been subpoenaed? Data logging requirements are mostly based on company policy. Some countries do require a minimum amount of logging/archiving and the time to keep such logs, others have no requirements. Do some searching for "no log" proxies and you can see this.

Seems almost like how facebook chat messages work. One you put anything in there, you can delete a copy, the recipients can delete theirs but facebook servers keep the message.

Like they own what you have said after you say it.

Well, they do spell it out in the TOS, EULA, and privacy policies if you can read the legalese.