American Politics, in the words of an elected California Dem

[Potjeh]

You guys do know that Obama deported more people than any president before him?

[Potjeh]

If by "resume normal connections" you mean a return to lopsided trade agreements and military protection while being lambasted by the protectees for being World Police, I pray to God Almighty that doesnt come in 2020 or ever again. I am all for helping our allies but I am fed up with carrying them and having them beat us unmercifully with the largest branch they can swing for doing it.

Please go in detail about the unfairness in USA-EU trade. Also, EU doesn't need you protecting them. France has nukes. Nobody invades a nuclear power. You are just being retarded with your humoungous military, because it's simply not needed for defence. Your nuclear arsenal is all the defence you need. Conquest is the only thing you need a conventional army for in this day and age.

[jordancoles]

Also, EU doesn't need you protecting them. France has nukes. Nobody invades a nuclear power. You are just being retarded with your humoungous military, because it's simply not needed for defence. Your nuclear arsenal is all the defence you need. Conquest is the only thing you need a conventional army for in this day and age.

I don't know, having a normal military outside of your nuclear arms isn't really a bad idea. Are you going to sort out every little dispute with a massive explosion? And what happens if someone does invade your country? Blow the invader's country up, and then your own to clear them out of there?

It's definitely a massive deterrent though, for sure

[CaddoPuma]

Please go in detail about the unfairness in USA-EU trade...

France, Great Britain, and West Germany all received trade agreements which artificially inflated the cost of US imports to them to help rebuild their shattered infrastructure and economies. NATO and the UN were both created almost exclusively at the US expense to prevent another WW and to provide military protection for those countries until they were able to rebuild their own defenses. Even after these countries had not only recovered, but surpassed their pre WW2 might, the trade deficits remained in place. One perfect example of the devastating affect this has had on the US economy is we did and continue to import steel from Europe while we have entire factory cities like Detroit, Michigan and Gary, Indiana - cities which were built and once thrived on steel production - crumble to nothing, leaving hundreds of thousands of Americans without jobs.

Also, EU doesn't need you protecting them. France has nukes.

Oh yeah? In your face!

I do not think Europe will manage without a "big brother". I'd rather that be the U.S. than Russia.
Europe needs U.S for protection and stability...From the U.S. point of view I can understand it seems that Europe is leeching on the U.S. Problem is, what is cheaper? To stabilize Europe financially and militarily to prevent any "shenanigans" like WW1/2 or jump in when **** already has hit the fan? You can tariff the Europeans all you like, but that will push them away towards Russia. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Choose your poison.

I know it's childish, petty, and trite of me. Yet, I would love to quote this and add "Oh Yeah? In your face!" in reply to anyone and everyone who ever makes specious statements about America being the laughing stock of the world.

Nobody invades a nuclear power.

Maybe not, but do you want us to sling nukes every time someone lobs a rocket at civilian sectors of our ally, Israel? How about every time someone gasses their own people like Hussein and Assad? We need our "retarded humoungous military" as a deterent for our enemies and our allies enemies. The best defense is a good offense. The best way for the US to secure peace for our allies is to make sure our enemies know we dont need nukes to smack them down; but we can wipe any upstart country who messes with us or our allies off the map with our conventional warfare might and wont hesitate to do so if they call our bet. Without both the might to win and the will to judiciously utilize that might with minimum force necessary, our only recourse to any offense would be nuclear war.

Nobody invades a nuclear power. You are just being retarded with your humoungous military, because it's simply not needed for defence. Your nuclear arsenal is all the defence you need. Conquest is the only thing you need a conventional army for in this day and age.

If America is so imperialistic; How many territories has America annexed since 1929? Our unique geogrpahical position makes a much more effective defense from conventional warfare than our nukes do. Our conventional army is almost exclusively to protect our allies.

[CaddoPuma]

Also, EU doesn't need you protecting them. France has nukes. Nobody invades a nuclear power. You are just being retarded with your humoungous military, because it's simply not needed for defence. Your nuclear arsenal is all the defence you need. Conquest is the only thing you need a conventional army for in this day and age.

I don't know, having a normal military outside of your nuclear arms isn't really a bad idea. Are you going to sort out every little dispute with a massive explosion? And what happens if someone does invade your country? Blow the invader's country up, and then your own to clear them out of there?

It's definitely a massive deterrent though, for sure

Finally something on which you an I agree!

[MagicManICT]

And even those that do quickly change their minds in the crucible of diversity, see the population of an elementary school near where I live: [img removed for brevity]

And? I think most urban regions have schools like this. I can point out the same thing for African American populations in some areas. Should we deport all of them because "they're children of immigrants?" 100 years ago, there were regions of Boston, NYC, Chicago, and a few other areas that had schools that spoke almost nothing but Italian. Look at the clamor over immigration politics, then.

All you people blowing horns over this are making mountains out of molehills. The problem is that we share a border with an economically impoverished country who's people want to come to a rich country, work, and send their money home instead of spending it all here. What do you think they're doing in Europe? Central and South America? If you want to crack down on illegal migrants, then crack down on those that would employ them, like the jackasses holding political offices now, instead of trying to build walls and deport everyone. (If the migrants can't find a job without a green card, they'll make sure to get that green card on the way across.)

And just to bring up the terrorist or drug bullshit, that's less than 5% (possibly >1%) of the border traffic, and they'd figure out means to circumvent anything we do, anyway. So far, no terrorist have come into the US via illegal border crossings; they've all been "home grown" or come in via legal means. The drug problem shouldn't be a problem. End the stupid ass "war on drugs," which is an entire conversation on its own. (Reminds me of another time when people were evading border security by running booze across the border... from CANADA.)

Look!! I just presented 3 valid, left means of solving the illegal immgrant problem! Know why they can't get implemented? It doesn't feed the penitentiary system. Got to have them cop jobs!

[Ardennesss]

We can't go after the employers who are looking the other way and employing them under the table or with fake documentation because the Dems won't let us. Look at the Oakland Mayor that publicly announced an ICE raid and told the citizens to hide so they were not captured and deported. Nothing has happened to her for that, despite it being a blatant felony assisting an untold number of illegals from escaping capture. Why are sanctuary cities still allowed to be a thing? Why do people feel they have the right to come here and we don't have the right to tell them to do it legally? I have no expectation that I could decide to move to Canada one day and stay as long as I want, that's retarded and ignorant.

[MagicManICT]

The idiots on the left are just as bad as the idiots on the right. I try not to judge either side by the extreme stupidity that shows up, but it's hard not to when that's all you see in media.

[Karede]

And? I think most urban regions have schools like this. I can point out the same thing for African American populations in some areas. Should we deport all of them because "they're children of immigrants?" 100 years ago, there were regions of Boston, NYC, Chicago, and a few other areas that had schools that spoke almost nothing but Italian. Look at the clamor over immigration politics, then.

The difference there is that they were European migrants coming to a European country, and also a question of scale. I don't think we were ever at risk of becoming majority Irish or Italian.

[CaddoPuma]

We just need to culturally enrich all those red States with more diversity. They're all racist homophobic bigots.

That's a culturally myopic, racist, conservative-phobic, bigoted thing to say.