Where is Meteorites, Where is Siedge.

[Ag_Revol]

And there's Rust if you want PvP and raids.

Rust is about shooting naked dudes. Haven is about in-game politics, alliances, social interactions and competition. There is NO competition without risk TO LOSE. Even if you can't fight by yourself - there is forum. Ask for help, make alliances, pay other faction for dealing with foes.

We need some BALANCE that will make raids POSSIBLE but still reasonably HARD so big factions wouldn't bother with raiding hermits while fighting each other. (TBH there's already no point in raiding noobs, they can't give you much of goods and are more useful as a realm contributors)

[iamahh]

population drops naturally, raiding drops faster, faction wars even faster

want pvp so bad go play pubg, mobas, games without mods and infinite stats

[Darkins]

population drops naturally, raiding drops faster, faction wars even faster

want pvp so bad go play pubg, mobas, games without mods and infinite stats

LMAO, whats wrong with you...
Want play PvE = Go play any modern MMORPG or farming simulator
go play PoE to infinite GRIND GEAR and shit
This game is unique coz of 1 reason = Permadeath PvP...if its get cutoff = this game will be 100% salem...

[Ag_Revol]

Haven never was a PVE game. It's understandable some people like to play it this way, but stop saying it is intended that raiding is dead.

[Potjeh]

Rust is about shooting naked dudes.

Ah, I see, you're the type that never got past bow stage.

Anyhow, since you guys are so great at game design, why don't you fuck off and make your own game? Haven has *never* been PvP centered game, because 99% of playtime has always been non-PvP. Even in world 1, when there was no walls at all.

[svino]

Just look at this shit. How we can play when they just can pali EVERYTHING AND DESTROY WITH ALT? WHAT I CAN TO DO WITH THIS BLYAT?
#pls_fix_dat_game
#jorb_do_something
#loftar_do_something_else_too

I'm personally not against villages being super hard to raid, but there needs to be a way for kingdoms to fight over territory. If you build a kingdom you should be prepared to defend it.

[MrVuleXX]

In the in the past world we have a salt, it was a good stuff, we have a fights for this BUT
In this world this shit refill only 5% and now it's useless, noone needs now.
So, we have a lot another resources and what we got? ALL RESOURCES PALISADED . FUCK.
I hate that. Why developers can't do something good and nice besides a fucking hats?
That's all. Ty.

[Kirche]

Haven never was a PVE game. It's understandable some people like to play it this way, but stop saying it is intended that raiding is dead.

dang, somebody should've told jorb and loftar, they could've saved alot of time on all of that PVE content that they have put into the game.

[Grog]

Haven never was a PVE game. It's understandable some people like to play it this way, but stop saying it is intended that raiding is dead.

dang, somebody should've told jorb and loftar, they could've saved alot of time on all of that PVE content that they have put into the game.

Just you wait! Magpie nests will have a crucial role in sieging next update!

[Ag_Revol]

Rust is about shooting naked dudes.

Ah, I see, you're the type that never got past bow stage.

Anyhow, since you guys are so great at game design, why don't you fuck off and make your own game? Haven has *never* been PvP centered game, because 99% of playtime has always been non-PvP. Even in world 1, when there was no walls at all.

It depends on Jorb decision, not yours. Stop acting like your playstyle is the only true way to play the game, mate.
Haven for most of its history had a big PVP element and social interactions base.

TBH it's hard to argue right now, nor you nor I don't know what is happening in other people heads, right? Maybe there's 90% of people who play the game for pvp? Maybe there's 90% of people who love to farm carrots? Who knows. We need to seek a compromise.

P.S. If you're really into PVE and farming carrots I doubt anyone will bother with raiding you unless raiding will be made SUPER easy (And it won't be so, counting that Jorb won't take the risk with big changes)
If you're a big faction then... well... you need to protect yourself somehow and prove you're important, right?
Unless you want to have 100 hermits who scream how big and good they are because there's no way to prove otherwise

Haven never was a PVE game. It's understandable some people like to play it this way, but stop saying it is intended that raiding is dead.

dang, somebody should've told jorb and loftar, they could've saved alot of time on all of that PVE content that they have put into the game.

It is true. Haven has some great PVE elements while having good PVP interactions. Balance is important. I'm trying to say that haven was never ONLY PVE game, okay?