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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:07 am

Jalpha wrote:I would prefer a military invasion of Australia by the USA instead of their surreptitious control over the nation of which I am a citizen. It sickens me that Australians would probably just bend over to allow marines to assfuck them while waving little USA flags. Brainwashed monkeys imo.

I'm going to say you're either in the minority here, or the politicians are doing things they want to do things despite what the people care for. I don't know much of dealings between the US and AUS other than the relatively recent deal on nuclear submarines and the longer standing defense treaty similar to NATO dating back to WWII and the Pacific theater of operations.

There's plenty of isolationists here in the US that would rather us not carry on any sort of military treaties with foreign countries, even to the point of not carrying on trade with anyone. The world has never been that, though, and never will be. We're all better when we can trade with each other, and that means means of protecting that trade and our interests.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby pawnchito » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:42 am

Zentetsuken wrote:
My only point is that there are a lot of media outlets churning out false news right now. ....

That being said, there is a pretty significant, moral and meaningful difference between telling indoctrination level dangerous anti-truths and exaggerated hero fables.

We should always be critical of any information we are receiving the best propaganda is consumed without the user knowing it. Always staying vigilant and critical of the narrative we are fed is the very least the common man can do. Something about a leader rising to the occasion and becoming more than a person but a symbol of hope and bravery for his people (and the world) by standing the line is heroic. Other leaders of the world could stand to imitate the fortitude we are seeing from Ukranians and we as people need to start raising the low bar we have set for our own leaders.


MagicManICT wrote:I think too many of us are susceptible to the latter, and all too often it can be harder to spot the former, even well educated people. Appeals to emotion and patriotism work because we're still those lizard-brained idiots deep down inside, and we all want to belong to the hive, even if we loudly object to not wanting to being a part of it.


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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Jalpha » Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:51 am

I am sure I am in the minority MagicMan. It's kind of my main point. A military invasion would be obvious and open. A very masculine method of imposing ones will upon another.

What we have instead is hidden influence and a stupified and ignorant population with the whole world unaware of the influence being wielded.

Anyway, what I really wanted to add was how grateful I am that no western military force has deployed within Ukraine. The result would be a long drawn out proxy war between East and West with Ukraine as the sandpit.

I liked Ukraine. I would like to go back and see Ukraine in Ukraine and not Syria in Ukraine.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby pawnchito » Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:59 am

Jalpha wrote:If you didn't understand my reference to WW2 then you should do more research on the economic sanctions imposed on Germany post WW1. Why is history a wheel. It's supposed to be a spiral. Morons. Drowning in morons.


Implying the state of the Russian economy prior to this was due to the west and not because Putin was stealing the Russian peoples money to fund a future war and build himself a bunker. You seem to be very very confused my dude.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby dagrimreefah » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:09 am

Russia invades Ukraine


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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby algam » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:03 am

Jalpha wrote:I would prefer a military invasion of Australia

To prefer a war is something. What do you smoke, dude?

Jalpha wrote:The people made their choice and that choice was war

This is almost funny. So , if a nation whats to make a choice that is legaly and moraly theirs and the other nations threatens with war that means the first one is the one that chose war. Technically you might be right. That does not mean you know what you are talking about

Jalpha wrote:I suspect Ukraine will retain its independence only with closer ties to Russia

This is a contradiction in terms

Jalpha wrote:The best possible resolution is for Ukraine to attain cultural superiority over the West and the East. First they must submit to Russia.

Having cultural superiority is something Russia was preaching during cold war because USA did not had so much cultural history. It seems somebody stil believes in this notion.

Jalpha wrote:Transnistria is the best part of Moldova right now

This at most made me thing that either:
- your sources are very suspect
or
- you have learned very early in your life how to speak Russian

Of course second option implies the first.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby WowGain » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:10 am

Jalpha wrote:
A military invasion would be obvious and open. A very masculine method of imposing ones will upon another.


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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby pawnchito » Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:44 am

Jalpha wrote:
A military invasion would be obvious and open. A very masculine method of imposing ones will upon another.


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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Fostik » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:53 am

We are assuming that russian goverment hiding information from russians about this war.
If you have russian friends, please help to spread information:

https://200rf.com/ - Information about captives or found documents of death.
https://t.me/UkrainianWitness - Telegram channel spreading informations for russian.


For anyone who is interesting what is happening here - here's example of good english channel, community tab: https://www.youtube.com/c/AdamSomething/community
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