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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Nictos » Fri May 08, 2026 4:21 pm

With coding agents couldn’t Jorb just… tell AI to do it? Maybe run through all the code to make the game better?
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby dUmbins » Fri May 08, 2026 6:57 pm

My belief is that Loftar is opposed to such a thing, for many stubborn, arcane and opaque reasons, however:

The theoretical implementation of Large Language Model coding would, to me, be the most excellent reason to finally let this game go. If the developers surrender to making their going-on-twenty-year passion project of blood sweat and tears (of laughter) into a cheap garbage slurry I would be out in a heartbeat and never look back.
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Regulus2424 » Fri May 08, 2026 7:02 pm

well said, +1
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby sMartins » Fri May 08, 2026 9:29 pm

These tigers jump really high.
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Schwarzvald » Sat May 09, 2026 2:11 am

Valid first post of admin obsolescence and six pages of community engagement with COMPLETE admin dereliction.

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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Sat May 09, 2026 3:19 am

Schwarzvald wrote:Valid first post of admin obsolescence and six pages of community engagement with COMPLETE admin dereliction.

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Who let this guy out?
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 09, 2026 6:45 am

vatas wrote:Haven most likely could only ever exist as a peculiar passion project, made by just two eccentric people.


People really like to characterize them as passionate and eccentric, but I really don't see it. They're developing for 2 hours a week by their own admission, with semi-frequent 3-6 month long breaks. Whenever they stream themselves playing it's obvious they don't even know how the game works at an intermediate basic level. Loftar could not figure out how visitor works with mineholes last stream.

Maybe they were passionate nerds once, now I think haven generates just barely enough money to justify keeping the lights on
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Schwarzvald » Sat May 09, 2026 6:49 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:
vatas wrote:Haven most likely could only ever exist as a peculiar passion project, made by just two eccentric people.


People really like to characterize them as passionate and eccentric, but I really don't see it. They're developing for 2 hours a week by their own admission, with semi-frequent 3-6 month long breaks. Whenever they stream themselves playing it's obvious they don't even know how the game works at an intermediate basic level. Loftar could not figure out how visitor works with mineholes last stream.

Maybe they were passionate nerds once, now I think haven generates just barely enough money to justify keeping the lights on
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The community holds the developers hostage here. Vocal minority. A PvE survivalist co-op version of this game would sell very well.
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby SnuggleSnail » Sat May 09, 2026 7:06 am

Okay, and? If they were passionate nerds about making a single player survival game they would've done so. What they've made is directionless slop precisely because they are not passionate and they do not have a vision.

Also, what the fuck do you mean "the community holds them hostage" as if writing some words on a forum they probably won't even read has power over them lmao
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Re: "Our primary development direction is toward OCO"

Postby Schwarzvald » Sat May 09, 2026 7:09 am

SnuggleSnail wrote:Okay, and? If they were passionate nerds about making a single player survival game they would've done so. What they've made is directionless slop precisely because they are not passionate and they do not have a vision.

Also, what the fuck do you mean "the community holds them hostage" as if writing some words on a forum they probably won't even read has power over them lmao
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