This community is exactly why P2P was implemented.

[Judaism]

Aparently I was wrong.

[Flame]

Here's the reality. People will bitch and moan and cry because they're "entitled" to something.

It's called Law of the Market.
Pay an apple like if it's a boat, is pointless.

H&H is selling himself like a boat, but as for now it's a maggoty apple.

[Lupich]

Straight up racist in the OP and then tries to lecture on maturity. Tsk.

Russian isn't a race. Nice try though.

[Lagoon]

People expect jorbtar to pay for servers, server maintenance, the website, database with money that comes out of their assholes. Why would they ever need to raise any form of revenue?<anyone who's pised off logic.

Here's the reality. People will bitch and moan and cry because they're "entitled" to something. They will swear they won't spend a cent on this game. Months later those same people WILL spend money on this game.

Before being a retarded cunt please refer to:

little shit that nobody would want to play with.

Oh, i would. But a Wish does not have to blind ourselves.
This is what you get in 2015:

https://www.eveonline.com/

These are their prices.

https://secure.eveonline.com/buy/?_ga=1 ... 1440806233


Also:

World of Warcraft®
14,99 EUR



Do you see the problem by yourself, now?
Honestly, i can also buy a candy for 50$, but i don't think i will, even if it looks tasty. Is a bad choise, a trick, a trap.
A betray.

[alagar]

People expect jorbtar to pay for servers, server maintenance, the website, database with money that comes out of their assholes. Why would they ever need to raise any form of revenue?<anyone who's pised off logic.

Here's the reality. People will bitch and moan and cry because they're "entitled" to something. They will swear they won't spend a cent on this game. Months later those same people WILL spend money on this game.

Yeah, they will spent, them they will die and stop paying, if at least they did a hat store like salem.

[shadowchris]

Before being a retarded cunt please refer to:

Before showing off how much of a dumb Fuck you are because you can't have a discussion without insults, look at the positives of this system. Haven and Hearth isn't cheap game to maintain. It costs money, a lot of money. But the fact of the matter is, there will come a time where it will be necessary to contribute money I nto this game. People will moan about it, but they will adjust to there needs.

[shampizle]

15$ is enough for 7-8 bottles of cheap vodka so you are underrating us.

what country has that cheap of vodka i would love to move to that country

[Hampa]

I'm pretty sure just because people can afford to pay 15$ a month, doesn't mean it's worth 15$ a month.

Well if you don´t think its worth 15$ then don´t play it. Simple as that. Getting really tired of all self-entitled welfare children looking for free lunches. If you like it pay for if, if not then gtfo. How can anyone seriously have a problem with paying a few bucks for a game that they put more than 24h a month in?

when you grow up and start paying hydro bills, internet bills, food, rent and other living expenses and learn the value of a dollar you'll realize fifteen dollars a month for a buggy laggy alpha java game is outrageous

When you grow up and start earning enough money to pay for other things than just living expenses you´ll realize that fifteen dollars for a game that you spend more than 24h a month with is nothing more than fair. And if you think its a laggy alpha, then just dont play it instead of bitching. Or get a real job so you can afford the extra 15 bucks...

[Nicstar543543]

Before being a retarded cunt please refer to:

Before showing off how much of a dumb Fuck you are because you can't have a discussion without insults, look at the positives of this system. Haven and Hearth isn't cheap game to maintain. It costs money, a lot of money. But the fact of the matter is, there will come a time where it will be necessary to contribute money I nto this game. People will moan about it, but they will adjust to there needs.

A game like Haven and Hearth does not need 15 dollars a month to survive and be updated. Gloria victis is a survival crafting pvp, pve, mmorpg. It literally has close to next gen graphics and has hundreds of crafting recipes, excellent mount and blade like combat, and costs only 10 dollars to play pre alpha. A one time payment. With probably less the player base of hnh the developers are able to update quite frequently with huge changes too. Please refute how HnH could possibly be more expensive to run than Gloria Victis and please do defend their decision for their p2p module.
http://gloriavictisgame.com/

[Zaerfen1]

Most people aren't opposed to paying something. Just yesterday I purchased a subscription for a different game. The price matched the product, I paid the bill happily and easily through one of several payment options, and both the buyer and seller went on enjoying the purchase. They received my money, I received the product and the quality that comes with it. I'm not limited in my game time - there are many ways of detecting and removing bots. You'd think with $15/month subscription fees they could sit around and personally LOOK for bots with such a small player base.

I also wasn't mislead about prices in my subscription purchase yesterday. Before the Haven website launched today I was telling EVERYONE about this game and the potential it had. My roommate, my friends on Skype, and I even upvoted a topic on reddit (I don't just click upvote on anything). When the website launched (after waiting an extra week and refreshing for 4 hours) and I saw the bloated prices in the store, I was just disappointed. This game had such an opportunity to be something great but the developers are seemingly disconnected from reality. The fact that the subscription was not mentioned beforehand means, in simple terms, these idiots will not receive a cent from me. They willingly built hype around the game while hiding a very important "feature" that they knew all along would exist.

That said I don't wish the duo creators did it any differently. It's their game and they are free to attach any price to it that they feel is reasonable. Was the original H&H even that good, though? The community-made mods allowed the game to be even remotely successful in the first place, and now that same community is being shafted by the game creators making an equally terrible sequel. Perhaps with prices like these they can work on the next game for 7 years, "Haven 3: Finally a Game Worth Playing".

Really I hope this game fails spectacularly so maybe Jorb can be introduced to some real and useful economic theory, not some shit he read out of a book that sounded smart. Make no mistake, there is money in my bank account and it is staying there.