Keep your autohearth on! (An Complaint About PvP)

[dafels]

What more do you want? There are lots of people here who don't like being forced into pvp and their opinion is just as important as yours.

Wrong game buddy and thinking that horses would fix this issue would be a like putting an patch onto a massive open wound on the body and hope that it will fix the wound.
Why don't we make that aggro is acceptable and denyable, once you get aggroed you can accept or deny the aggro? That would save the annoyment of getting teleported to the hf for the people using auto hearth and it wouldn't force people into the combat like you want it to be, I'm pretty sure you would be all for this vernie. and loftar should take vernie as his personal advisor in criminal acts/combat things.

Lost all hope

[Potjeh]

Have you ever considered that it might be a wrong game for you rather than the peaceful farmers?

[shubla]

Have you ever considered that it might be a wrong game for you rather than the peaceful farmers?

Yeah!
Go play cs go.
There you can have pvp all the time.

[Carebear]

This thread is a mess. Why play a perma-death PVP game to just hide and not be involved in the PVP. Yes I am a carebear, but I use the EVE definition that I am not into PVP (because I am no good at it) but I still want the risk. I rarely leave my BW's on my farmer and take pride in making food for the killers in my village. I expect to die if I wander about outside my walls and get jumped. I like that it is possible and enjoy the risk.

This is not farmville and the crybabies need to move on. Yes it scares me to think that Coles and his goons or DIS could show up and nuke my place, but its part of the game.

What should the focus be? Fix PVP and Seige so people start playing again!!!!! I have nobody to eat my OP food.

We understand it is hard - Siege can't allow people to destroy months/years of work overnight. The effort to raid an established village should be significant, but killing someone you run across in the wild should not. If you are not setup to defend yourself stay inside your walls and make a combat alt. if you dont have a BW and patrol it, expect to die. If you dont have a BW and cant defend yourself join a village that has one.

Jorb/Loftar - I know you guys are trying but please do sometihng with PVP/Seige before nobody is left playing and ignore the crybabies. Let everyone die if that is what it takes to solve this - but solve it please. I would rather die to PVP than boredom.

[pietin2]

Well stated carebear, I couldn't agree with u more. I'm just a peaceful farmer myself yet I understand that if I wander outside my village I could possible get kill and that it should be that way

[ChildhoodObesity]

The responses in this thread make me sick smh might just play legacy again

we shud all donate a lot of money for them 2 restart the server if that server was restarted and even a little bit active i would be spending almost all my spare time playing it, doesnt even need any chances just a fukn reset

[pheonix]

Can't you use a horse?

Devs already said they intend to nerf permadeath to make pvp less dramatic, and they're already trying to make everything more raidable. Horses willl also be tamable and armor penetration was mentioned a few times. What more do you want? There are lots of people here who don't like being forced into pvp and their opinion is just as important as yours.

complaining about being attacked in an open world pvp game, my god smh.

Every day that passes gets quieter, i hear of no raids in forums anymore, no deaths to instigate them, no reasons to even go out and get caught and even then we have bubble hearth now which is fucking stupid. i always thought HAfen had some relation to the real world, where if you can see someone you can engage them (Oi you mate im gonna wreck you) not oh no those evil looking guys are coming towards me "beam me up scotty".

IF jorb and loftar listen to cowards(not carebears, but people who don't want any fighting at all) this game is going to be another salem 2.0 clone or like those old games people talk about the good ol days that no one plays anymore. I get we have people that don't want to fight and i understand that, but to come here and expect to be safe and demand things put in to make you feel safer over the fact that we need more pvp and more end game goals to focus on is just retarded.

We are currently at a situation where we have people using the logic of to save the economy lets not spend any money and save it up that will solve the problems coz we're holding onto our precious money, not caring for the fact they we need to spend money for business to run and pay people to have money in the first place. We need people fighting and dieing rebuilding and exploring the map instead of building their bases and hiding forever. This map aint too big as people claimed, the problem is people settle put up walls and then stay in one spot and call it game. In my town atm i see almost no one logging in because we have no fear of death, no end game goals because grinding carrots, no real reason to go to war and attack others because they have nothing of value to us.

[pietin2]

if u want to be safe and no pvp then u need to go play Farmville. HnH has always had pvp and it should have it now, that's what makes the game fun. I don't fight but it gets exciting when u are being raided or chased by another player or u are raiding or chasing someone.

[MagicManICT]

we shud all donate a lot of money for them 2 restart the server if that server was restarted and even a little bit active i would be spending almost all my spare time playing it, doesnt even need any chances just a fukn reset

You think a restart would get it to an "active" state for more than a month or two when they've already said they're not going to update it anymore? I wouldn't bother logging into it because that old version really is a "ded gaem."

Why play a perma-death PVP game to just hide and not be involved in the PVP. Yes I am a carebear, but I use the EVE definition that I am not into PVP (because I am no good at it) but I still want the risk.

I agree, but what did you do in EVE? I lived in w-space half the time, the other half the time I ran around empire managing my production network. If all you did was work out of hi-sec, then you really didn't expose yourself to PvP. Here, you're exposed to PvP by just logging into the game and no protection from it other than your own wits.

[Carebear]

The reference to EVE was more about the fact that being a carebear does not mean that you are a farmville player. Spent plenty of time in wormholes and lost my share of ships in hisec as well as lowsec.

If the devs want to put in some safe zones to help retain new players or cater to the farmville players fine, go for it. The root issue is that PVP and Siege are flawed. This is in part why so many people left Salem and why active player count on Hafen keeps dropping. Yes it is hard to balance and there are no silver bullets, but at this stage we need less eye-candy and useless food and more fundamental mechanics that bring the core players back to the game..... and that is PVP and Siege. Farmville purity grind seems covered to me for now, not perfect and plenty that could be done, but let it rest for a bit.

Then again what do I know, I am a self proclaimed Carebear. I paid my annual sub and am happy... I got my monies worth already, just hoping the social experiment does not die on the vine...