Define the other players from their alignment

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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby Ysh » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:24 pm

Ysh wrote:
Jalpha wrote:InB4 someone links the briggs myers for more accurate personality profiles.

Like this one?
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Jalpha wrote:Yes but what's prospecting lol.

Site I use is here: https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test
I think it is same as ''perceiving'' in most other system. But they call it ''prospecting'' here for some reasons. It is contrast from judging here too, so I think maybe they just like this one word better.

Jalpha wrote:Also not sure what the last one is but there are a few adaptations around.

From what I can tell this last one is similar to neuroticism measure from five factor model. They have it is -A (assertiveness, i.e. low neuroticism) or -T (turbulent, i.e. high neuroticism). Maybe there is more to this than those, but it look that way to me at one glance.
Jalpha wrote:Is that your result?

Yes.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby Jalpha » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:33 pm

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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby seisorith » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:40 pm

I have a good idea of what some of you forum regulars are, but I'm not going to evaluate mainly because I believe I should judge on your personal actions/use of authority over your subordinates. Because I never encountered any of you in-game, I can't fairly evaluate.
Well, I did actually encounter in-game one forum regular, and that was Maze.
At first I thought him to be True Neutral. But as time passed, I started to suspect he was more Neutral Good... but leaning closer and closer to Chaotic Good as even more time passed.
Getting killed by some lawful good/lawful neutral idiot twice, I stopped playing. So I don't know how Maze is behaving now.

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So is this one.



Hmm. I always thought Cersei was lawfully evil... as in... she will try to legislate anything into law, just to carry out her evil. And Littlefinger, chaotically neutral because he is so two-faced.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby Jalpha » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:04 pm

I would have said little-finger is Neutral Evil because he's so self serving, not truly evil at all just excessively ambitious. Which is also what Cersei is as well. She's not intentionally evil, it's just the inevitable result of her lust for power and control. But, control is a fairly Lawful trait so she may swing heavily toward that alignment. Some of the others I would switch though, like the little guy and the eunuch.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby seisorith » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:18 pm

Jalpha wrote:I would have said little-finger is Neutral Evil because he's so self serving, not truly evil at all just excessively ambitious. Which is also what Cersei is as well. She's not intentionally evil, it's just the inevitable result of her lust for power and control. But, control is a fairly Lawful trait so she may swing heavily toward that alignment. Some of the others I would switch though, like the little guy and the eunuch.


Yes, I almost completely agree and had second thoughts about Littlefinger, he can be neutral evil. He certainly isn't lawful. He only 'acts' lawful and I bet no one was expecting him to turn on Ned who follows the straight-and-narrow. I can't personally place Varys the Spider (the fat bald advisor currently in lawful neutral) under True Neutral because he did say he does whatever is "best for the realm", which gives him 'good' points. The biggest challenge I think is finding a major GoT character that can be classified as full-blown True Neutral. Hmm, possibly The Red Priest because he only brings people back to life? Or, maybe Hodor, because he is too mentally handicapped to fight for anything?

edit: Ohhh... and then there is Bronn, the guy who fought under Tyrion for a while. Yes, Tyrion can be neutral in matters between Lannister and Stark, but I think his heart is too 'good' for True Neutral. Bronn on the other hand... he is just plain selfish, but has never been seen killing unnecessarily nor having any moral leaning whatsoever. And he is loyal to nobody. He is purely True Neutral.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby Bowshot125 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:55 pm

Bowshot - Lawful nuetral, believes no forum should be shiposted as much as it is here.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm

Littlefinger is at best neutral evil. He's not psychotic, but he's too often ignoring any legal matters to be lawful evil.
Tyrion is the definition of Chaotic Good, which is diametrically opposed to the rest of the Lannister family (at least the ones in ruling positions--Cersei, Tywin). He becomes about doing the right thing, even if it means being wrong in the eyes of family and society, and even before the whole shakeup of the royal wedding, he would be chaotic neutral. He's just too much of a hedonist to be anything but chaotic.
Cersei was already best summed up by seisorith: manipulating the law to server here own ends, be it whispering it to the son or acting as queen regent, even trying to manipulate the church.
Varys is a bit of an enigma. I think falls more under the "druidic*" true neutral of being outside the world and influencing it in ways that may be seen as good or evil, lawful or chaotic, but can never be truly nailed down one way or the other. He is about the flow and control of information, though, and according to the "Universal Law," it would probably put him more at chaotic neutral (Chaos Theory, laws of entropy, etc).

seisorith wrote:then there is Bronn, the guy who fought under Tyrion for a while.

Yeah, good example of true neutral in the shitstorm that is GoT. Self serving, but not without a heart for others. He's just trying to make way in the world. Will serve a lord as long as it doesn't infringe on his view of good and evil. Not much is said about his early history, but he says enough about it to know there were lines he wasn't willing to cross.

Another good example of Chaotic Evil would be any of the lords from Slaver's Bay.

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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby dageir » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:23 pm

Took a test here:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn ... F20001222b

Chaotic Neutral

A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn’t strive to protect others’ freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions. The chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer). The common phrase for chaotic neutral is "true chaotic." Remember that the chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. Chaotic neutral is the best alignment you can be because it represents true freedom both from society’s restrictions and from a do-gooder’s zeal.

So it turns out that I actually am CN..
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby pedorlee » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:46 pm

dageir wrote:Took a test here:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn ... F20001222b

Chaotic Neutral

A chaotic neutral character follows his whims. He is an individualist first and last. He values his own liberty but doesn’t strive to protect others’ freedom. He avoids authority, resents restrictions, and challenges traditions. The chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy. To do so, he would have to be motivated either by good (and a desire to liberate others) or evil (and a desire to make those different from himself suffer). The common phrase for chaotic neutral is "true chaotic." Remember that the chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behavior is not totally random. He is not as likely to jump off a bridge as to cross it. Chaotic neutral is the best alignment you can be because it represents true freedom both from society’s restrictions and from a do-gooder’s zeal.

So it turns out that I actually am CN..


Same here.
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Re: Define the other players from their alignment

Postby Patchouli_Knowledge » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:50 pm

I took that test today that was posted. Seems I have a bit too much of a heart (even if I do not do anything) to be TN and it shifted to NG.
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