INNER PARTY CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

[MagicManICT]

I explained in detail why not everyone is, can or should be in the IP.

Problem with the plebs is they have conflicting feedback most of the time.

do you realize this is leaking some nazism air? saying "we are special but you arent"

Doesn't being invited (or forced into) a developers inner circle make you special on some level? At least it means the devs value your input more than others, at least for the time being. I realize the words being used are of poor choice, but what has this to do with Nazism? I'd call it more "white tower" type BS (we know more because we sit in our tower discussing it all day), or fascism (we have power and thus are better than you).

some are speaking otherwise, as if they were representing devs, which is the only issue i find here.

I can't explicitly say about this being a member of the Inner Party, but as a moderator, don't we at some level? I realize I say I don't speak for the devs all the time, as I am trying to express my personal opinions, not those of jorb or loftar (though they may align), but they've entrusted certain privileges to me to be fair and uphold rules on the forum, and with respecting my input on certain matters before that. If I were to speak on a subject, it's hard for a person that isn't a regular on the forums to distinguish me as a player from me as a moderator. Where exactly does that voice change? As a moderator, are my statements about what should and shouldn't be more valuable in the eyes of other players?

All that aside, if it makes anyone feel better, think of the IP as unpaid employees (jorbtar's slaves). If we were working for DICE or Bethesda or whatever commercial studio, we'd be making slightly better than minimum wage and listed in the credits as "internal playtesting" or some such drek. You plebs have read the credits in a game, haven't you?

[Tonkyhonk]

Doesn't being invited (or forced into) a developers inner circle make you special on some level? At least it means the devs value your input more than others, at least for the time being. I realize the words being used are of poor choice, but what has this to do with Nazism? I'd call it more "white tower" type BS (we know more because we sit in our tower discussing it all day), or fascism (we have power and thus are better than you).

feeling special and disrespecting others are two different things.
the bottom line, feel special all you want, but dont point your fingers at others and say they are worthless.

[Avu]

Who said plebs are worthless? Plebs built Rome. Tonky you used to be cool... what happened to you? You're turning into Rhianon...ter

And I'm better than everyone else anyway plebs or not. And I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.

[LadyGoo]

Tonky you used to be cool... what happened to you?

She started disagreeing with you and telling unwanted truth? What she is saying is truth at least because I saw IP membership being used as an argument of someone's worthiness.

[MagicManICT]

feeling special and disrespecting others are two different things.
the bottom line, feel special all you want, but dont point your fingers at others and say they are worthless.

Wasn't really what I was getting out of the posts earlier, but language being what it is and too many speak English as a second language (and add on the top of that too many native speakers can't speak it worth a damn), you get a lot of crossed intentions. Maybe I'm just blind to it, intentionally or otherwise.

(PS, hope people realize the last comment in my previous post was an attempt at sarcasm.)

[TeckXKnight]

some are speaking otherwise, as if they were representing devs, which is the only issue i find here.

Na. No member of any of the different secret groups has ever had much if any power in getting JLo to let others into the groups. Like Haba said, it's based on the devs whims. Sometimes we yell at them about it though. =)

I'm useless, unimportant and i'm in IP ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

In so much the same way that I am too, yeah. We're generally good folks but we represent smaller groups or hermits for the most part so our input isn't as loud or important as larger factions. At times the only people we represent are new players on the forums struggling even. It's still valuable in its own way.

[Avu]

That's some opportunistic support if I saw any. I'm sure you and tonky are great friends otherwise. I wonder though why the fuck do you care what I do or say? If the IP people aren't all that important why care if I make fun of you or others? Just treat me like any other scrub with a big mouth and ignore me and everyone will be happy. I say a lot of crap I don't really mean or in an antagonistically chosen way to get people riled up especially people who choose to take offense when there is none meant. I ask for more plebs in our village a lot, nobody seems to take it the wrong way. Also please play more Ceaser 2.

Want another piece of wisdom from my endless supply (might be coming out of my ass who knows)? Why jorb doesn't invite you to inner party? Well you and your faction seem intent on destroying all other factions and noobs and ruling alone by any means necessary which probably seem like awesome and swell goals to you but that has the side effect of driving paying players away. Jorb may choose not to focus on helping hasten that goal.

[LadyV]

I don't care who makes up the inner party as long as it does not diminish the game as a whole. It's their group of advisors so they have the right to choose who they wish. I just do see the big deal over it. Lord knows I don't want on it. Ill say my piece and they can use it how they wish. So all I can say is those of you in the group please represent us well.

[Avu]

They ignore us most of the time anyway even when we all agree on changes which is not that often. Ignore or postpone the changes and never tell us about it. Jorb at least reads the entire forums and loftar like none of it including the IP.

[sabinati]

Other games have test groups, jorb very rarely tells us about stuff in advance and pretty much never gives us anything to test.

And lol at yes men. Oh god I've bitched at jorb since the start and never stopped. I find it amusing that you think we're yes men. Circle jerking not even? I still don't like nao though I value his combat experience and the insight he brings on that front. I think jordan coles is just a spammer who inflates his post count with 20 messages for 1 of actual value. Potjeh is fucking wrong on alts like you wouldn't believe it. Sabinati is a scrub who doesn't even know how combat works and I keep on going.

Problem with the plebs is they have conflicting feedback most of the time. Also there needs to be context for feedback. Jorb can't be expected to know everyones ingame situation. At least he knows the feedback he gets from us is coming from the point of view of a certain type of organized village and he can weight that in when he decides stuff. And it's not like he ignores other feedback. Or it's not like he doesn't ignore ours. He does it all the time.

lol, because i didn't have the ONE move at the time that was a multicolor attack