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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Granger » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:16 pm

Jesus_Smith_Nandez wrote:Hodor


Try arguments based on reality if you want to be taken seriously.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:29 pm

Communism didn't work for a reason.

Because it works against progression, in the name of "equality"

People aren't ambitious in communist societies, because their ambitions arent rewarded, so you're stuck in the same slump, for the rest of their pitiful existence.

While in Capitalist societies, ambition is welcomed with open arms, a man who wishes to go somewhere in life CAN with the right amount of effort and determination, he can reach his dreams, he will be rewarded for his hard work, and at the same time, we are all considered equals, we are all the same, we all have equal oppertunity, we can all make something of ourselves.

But in Communism, your worth is determined by your leader, not by your own personal actions.

Would you rather be free to make something of yourself? or would you rather be a tool for ill gotten gains for an Exploiting con-artist, that promises everyone equal poverty and misery?
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:39 pm

Salad wrote:People aren't ambitious in communist societies, because their ambitions arent rewarded, so you're stuck in the same slump, for the rest of their pitiful existence.


I realize I'm nit-picking here, but ambition is rewarded. You just have to have the right ambitions. This is true even in capitalist society.

To note, communism does succeed. Everyone relates it to Soviet Russia and China. These are the only communist entities that have ever existed. I don't think it will work on a national level, but it can and will work on a local cultural level.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:46 pm

MagicManICT wrote: local cultural level.


i'm all for Local Communism, it's a great thing, all communities (small ones at least) should work to better the lives of themselves and their neighbors.

MagicManICT wrote: but ambition is rewarded. You just have to have the right ambitions. This is true even in capitalist society.


MagicManICT wrote: You just have to have the right ambitions


MagicManICT wrote: right ambitions


:lol: Yeah because in Communism, the only ambitions that's right is the one that ensures total control of the party and the protection if it's existence. fuck everything else, right?

Your ambition needs to match up with the Communist party, or you are just going to be a slave to it's system, that's it, your life will be mundane, pointless, and worthless. You are a cog in the machine for those who push the agenda of the Communist party.

Your life's work and goals are in the name of the party, you yourself, are meaningless.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby shubla » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

Salad wrote:in Capitalist societies
considered equals
all have equal oppertunity, we can all make something of ourselves.

Holy shit I didnt know people were brainwashed this hard in US. I really hope this some bad kind of joking.
In capitalism, people that are rich can do things that poor people cant. Capitalism is one of best ideologies for no equality.
You born as a black man in poor family because your dad is missing and your mom has 4 kids to feed? Chances are, that you are going to live shitty life compared to somone else that was born in wealthy white family.
Also, in capitalist societies people only think about themselves. If you care about others, you are never going to be rich. To be rich you have to be an asshole to many people, you have to manipulate people and do things that are widely considered morally wrong.

Actually, key thing to make capitalism work is making people UNHAPPY for their lifes. For companies to make lots of money for their owners, they have to advertise their products. This way people get urgent need to get that product. They will become unhappy, because they dont have it. When they buy it they become happy again, but then theres another product that is being advertised and they need to have that too to keep being happy.
Capitalism makes people greedy, greedy people cause problems and unhappiness for others.

Capitalism is like cancer, a big tumour spreading all over our planet. Destroying our planets nature, killing its species and causing climate change, all this only to make more money for greedy company owners.


CAPITALISM DOES NOT WORK.
US WILL FALL.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:55 pm

shubla wrote:Holy shit I didnt know people were brainwashed this hard in US. I really hope this some bad kind of joking.
In capitalism, people that are rich can do things that poor people cant. Capitalism is one of best ideologies for no equality.
You born as a black man in poor family because your dad is missing and your mom has 4 kids to feed? Chances are, that you are going to live shitty life compared to somone else that was born in wealthy white family.
Also, in capitalist societies people only think about themselves. If you care about others, you are never going to be rich. To be rich you have to be an asshole to many people, you have to manipulate people and do things that are widely considered morally wrong.

Actually, key thing to make capitalism work is making people UNHAPPY for their lifes. For companies to make lots of money for their owners, they have to advertise their products. This way people get urgent need to get that product. They will become unhappy, because they dont have it. When they buy it they become happy again, but then theres another product that is being advertised and they need to have that too to keep being happy.
Capitalism makes people greedy, greedy people cause problems and unhappiness for others.

CAPITALISM DOES NOT WORK.
US WILL FALL.


:lol: Yeah ok, you go be Lenin's slave for the rest of your life, commie. i'll stick to working my ass off in the name of making a living for myself, and not in the name of some political party.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby shubla » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:57 pm

Salad wrote: Yeah ok, you go be Lenin's slave for the rest of your life, commie. i'll stick to working my ass off in the name of making a living for myself, and not in the name of some political party.

This is good example of completely brainwashed human.
When somone says something that is againist his leaders opinion. He completely refuses to even think about it.
All US people, or atleast huge majority. Have been brainwashed to hate communism and praise capitalism. Even though this system does not work.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Ysh » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:02 pm

shubla wrote:Even though this system does not work.

Seems to do fine works to me.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby shubla » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:03 pm

Ysh wrote:works to me

And here we see proof of capitalism not working
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Ysh » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:05 pm

shubla wrote:
Ysh wrote:works to me

And here we see proof of capitalism not working

Very cryptic. I am sure scholar will study for while to decipher this meaning, it is probably worth this time spent.
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