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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby Ysh » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:44 pm

shadyg0d wrote:
Granger wrote:
shadyg0d wrote:This guy has no fucking clue what he is talking about. With a piss test it will hardly ever detect after a month unless you're a fat stoner. And walking through a cloud of smoke? WTF are you smoking bro

I did extensive research on the urine tests that were used by german police some years back after having been subjected to one with everything except Heroin lighting up on them - without having consumed any of the stuff. They were as sensitive as I posted, as was stated in the manual and later testified by a representative of the manufacturer (which turned into the stay-out-of-jail-and-keep-the-driving-license outcome for me).
But you're certainly right, what do I know.

Maybe they used a different type of test. I live in the USA. I'm sure most smokers can back me up that it's unlikely to test positive after a month with your standard urine test.

Am I wrong?

I too am American citizen. I have never fail urine test here.
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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby shadyg0d » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:56 pm

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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby Granger » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:06 pm

https://www.amazon.de/GEO-Wissen-Rausch ... 3570068641

No idea if there is an english version of it, but I gave it to several parents and they all relaxed because GEO was somewhat trusted to not publish bullshit and in that issue they sorted the stuff by how dangerous it is in reality (opposed to in the heads of some geriatric idiots, as usual).
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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby borka » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:12 pm

Granger i did a bit of research - it looks like tests and methods are different and sharper in our country - let alone internationally they check for amounts in whole blood while in germany they use the bloodserum for numbers (Colorado/USA - driving ability limit is 5 ng/ml whole blood which would be 10 ng/ml Serum in germany where it's 1ng/ml Serum now)

Also the tests used differ between Bundesländer (afaik HB and NRW usually test bloodserum for THC-COOH, while others just test bloodserum on THC).

friends working in that biznesses (in Nds.) gave me this info
Police usually tests with "Drugwipe" on saliva, some prisons use D.TecT
http://www.securetec.net/en/saliva-drug-test-drugwipe
http://www.securetec.net/en/dtectr-urine-test
http://www.securetec.net/sites/default/ ... v01_EN.pdf

funny:
In Switzerland, a THC limit for drivers (bus, train) was introduced a few years ago. This limit, which is comparable to the rest of the 0.0-alcohol limit for taxi drivers, is located in Switzerland at 1.5 ng / ml THC; the force in Germany limit of 1 ng / ml appears to be only slightly lower at first glance. Considering now, however, the fact that the Swiss limit in whole blood and is not determined in the serum, can be calculated a limit of 3 ng / ml serum or the limit for drivers is in Switzerland by German reading at 3 ng / ml Serum. Yes, in Switzerland, it is believed that even drivers of buses and trains with up to 3 ng / ml THC can indulge responsibly in the blood serum of their work. In Germany, however, gone out with a THC detection of 1 ng / ml serum from a "noise ride".
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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby Granger » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:28 pm

I posted information about a urine test (which scans for inactive metabolites).

PS: this was in Schleswig-Holstein.
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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby ArvinJA » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:59 pm

Granger wrote:PS: this was in Schleswig-Holstein.

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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby borka » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:58 am

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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:40 am

shadyg0d wrote:Maybe they used a different type of test. I live in the USA. I'm sure most smokers can back me up that it's unlikely to test positive after a month with your standard urine test.


It completely depends on the type of test used. There are several available.

If anyone feels a need to continue to do recreational drugs even when it puts their life, career, or family on the line, there's a ton of websites with accurate information on how to best dodge testing, but none of it is 100% guaranteed.

As far as synthetic THC, they're all toxic. Some mildly so and will only land you in the hospital if you overdose. Others are highly toxic and can cause long term damage to the body very quickly. If you feel a need to get high, just smoke the damn weed already.
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Re: Drug Testing for THC

Postby borka » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:19 pm

MagicManICT wrote:As far as synthetic THC, they're all toxic. Some mildly so and will only land you in the hospital if you overdose. Others are highly toxic and can cause long term damage to the body very quickly. If you feel a need to get high, just smoke the damn weed already.


Even Mr. Huffman the creator of most main "THC" synthetics says so! Goggle translate of http://www.drogen-info-berlin.de/htm/jw ... inoide.htm

Today 79 years old and retired, John W Huffman enjoys, a university professor, a quiet lifestyle in the mountains of North Carolina. He likes to laugh, is self-deprecating, and he has a sharp, analytical mind, which has helped him in a long and successful career as a scientist.

Huffman invented more than 450 chemical compounds, try the effect of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive substance in marijuana mimic. The compounds - which bear his initials - are the main ingredients in marijuana alternatives like Kronic, K2 and Spice. Huffman, however, classifies these compounds as highly dangerous.

"It's like playing Russian roulette," he says, "because you just can not know what will happen." He makes his contempt for people who want to make a profit from Spice, Kronic or K2 no secret. "There are people on this earth who will do anything to make money, even if it hurts other people," he says. "These people are immoral." "These people know that these things are harmful. These people are like drug traffickers, the cocaine and crystal meth and all the other nasty sell drugs."

Huffman is a Professor of Organic Chemistry in July retired and received his doctorate at Harvard University. He was one of the few cannabinoid experts publicly spoke out about the impact of the hazards of JWH and came against the use of drugs. This is partly because, since there are few people who qualify, can talk about synthetic cannabinoids. In the US, Huffman is one of only "four or five" chemists who have made these compounds - three of which are over 70 years old.

Huffman worked with Nobel laureate Robert Burns Woodward. The cannabinoid research was funded in 1984 by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) to develop with the aim of synthetic THC. Huffman's research eventually led to the development of more than 450 chemical compounds which "mimic THC" that. One of the strongest and most easily produced is JWH-018, which is 10 times as potent as THC.
"The artificial cannabinoids are harmful, marijuana is not"

Huffman believes the artificial cannabinoids - as Spice - should not be sold legally. But he also stresses the legalization of marijuana is a way to address the problems with synthetic cannabis. "The artificial cannabinoids are harmful, they are dangerous," he says, "and marijuana is not really dangerous." He has a doctor friend in California who knew nothing of the synthetic compounds, because in his state, it is so easy to obtain marijuana (medicinal marijuana is legal in California). "So I come to the conclusion that the legalization of marijuana is probably the best thing we can do"
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