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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:05 pm

shubla wrote:This is good example of completely brainwashed human.
When somone says something that is againist his leaders opinion. He completely refuses to even think about it.
All US people, or atleast huge majority. Have been brainwashed to hate communism and praise capitalism. Even though this system does not work.


This isn't about what my "leader" thinks, this is what I think.

I think I should be paid for the work I do, equal to the effort I put in.

We are all treated the same, and this is held up by law.

we all have equal opportunity to become something here in America. Being black and poor, white and rich, it doesn't matter, work hard, you can become something.

I don't praise capitalism, I just really hate the idea of some fucker exploiting me for my hard work and not paying me what I feel i'm owed, at least here I can work hard and get educated, work better jobs, and get paid better.

I've thought about it, I even agree with the concept of Communism, if it would fucking work, but too bad it doesn't, does it? it doesn't work on the scale you want it to because your leaders are always corrupted, evil and manipulative.

The system doesn't work because people don't like being cheated of their hard work, and they stop working because of it.

Your hardest workers quit because you don't treat them right. for ever hard working communist worker, there will be 2-3 lazy bums that exploit communism for their own benefits, they are leeches, and they ruin it for everyone.

On a national scale, Communism does not work, people are too lazy to make it work, humans are too inherently greedy and lazy to let it work, so it never will.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Grog » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:12 pm

shubla wrote:Capitalism is like cancer, a big tumour spreading all over our planet. Destroying our planets nature, killing its species and causing climate change, all this only to make more money for greedy company owners.


CAPITALISM DOES NOT WORK.
US WILL FALL.


How is this any less brainwashed? :D
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby shubla » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:16 pm

Ysh wrote:
shubla wrote:
Ysh wrote:works to me

And here we see proof of capitalism not working

Very cryptic. I am sure scholar will study for while to decipher this meaning, it is probably worth this time spent.

You only think about yourself. If system "Works for me" its not good system. Good system works for others too.

Salad wrote:I think I should be paid for the work I do, equal to the effort I put in.

You're greedy man who only thinks about himself. This is why capitalism societies are so shitty.
Many people suffer because you are selfish af.

Salad wrote: exploit for their own benefits, and they ruin it for everyone.

Guess what. This is exactly the case in capitalism. Except in capitalism, its not called exploitation.

Salad wrote:We are all treated the same, and this is held up by law.

No, you arent. Rich people are exception to this. They can do many things that ordinary citizen cant, such as not pay taxes without any consequences.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:31 pm

shubla wrote:You're greedy man who only thinks about himself. This is why capitalism societies are so shitty.
Many people suffer because you are selfish af.


Humans are inherently greedy, you cannot fault me or anyone else for that, it is a fact of being human and it is a part of why we are here today, Humanity and greed go hand in hand.

shubla wrote:
Guess what. This is exactly the case in capitalism. Except in capitalism, its not called exploitation.


Capitalism isn't about the exploitation of workers, this is simply what it comes down to, an ambitious man takes on people who will do work for him for pay, he pays what he deems the job worth.
In a Capitalist society, a man can choose to take whatever job he likes, he is not required by law to work a shitty job at a shitty pay rate, go to school and get a better job that better suits your desired lifestyle and gives you the income you want.

Not my fault people are greedy and don't pay people what they want, work harder and you'll get it, lazy.

shubla wrote: No, you arent. Rich people are exception to this. They can do many things that ordinary citizen cant, such as not pay taxes without any consequences.


And so are Communist party leaders, they are the exception to your fucked up system, they get the benefits of all the hard work that you all do, until eventually you all give up because you're fucking lazy and tired of working for something that can barely sustain human life, because you're being sucked dry by a vampire thirsty for your hard work and blind commitment.

Oh and, tax evasion is illegal, don't act like it's ok for them to evade taxes, they do it outside of the law, you idiot. :lol: it's not like the government gave them the thumbs up to not pay taxes. Rich people aren't above the law, they are simply able to pay off whoever is enforcing it, some of us are corruptible, it is a human flaw.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Hasta » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:34 pm

Salad wrote:stuff

shubla wrote:stuff


The problem is that both Salad and shubla talk about theory of one's system and practice of opponent's system. In theory both systems are great. On practice both suck balls. Not that there's many alternatives, but, yeah, until you realize that problem you'll be just throwing shit at each other with same old wrinky arguments.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Ysh » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:36 pm

shubla wrote:
Ysh wrote:
shubla wrote:And here we see proof of capitalism not working

Very cryptic. I am sure scholar will study for while to decipher this meaning, it is probably worth this time spent.

You only think about yourself. If system "Works for me" its not good system. Good system works for others too.

Because I say it only works to me. :roll: Maybe you can stop read what you like from my word and read what I say instead?
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:37 pm

Hasta wrote:
Salad wrote:stuff

shubla wrote:stuff


The problem is that both you and shubla talk about theory of your system and practice of opponent's system. In theory both systems are great. On practice both suck balls. Not that there's many alternatives, but, yeah, until you realize that problem you'll be just throwing shit at each other with same old wrinky arguments.


Oh do you have any other bright ideas? I mean i'd love to hear something new, really I would

Not like either one of the systems are flawless, then again what system is, right?

Find one that is less abused than either one, than fuck sign me up.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Hasta » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:41 pm

Salad wrote:Not like either one of the systems are flawless, then again what system is, right?
Find one that is less abused than either one, than fuck sign me up.


My point exactly. All system have flaws. Everyone chooses the one he's more comfortable with (has nothing to do with abuse, it's about personal value system), or moves away.

Why you keep on trying to persuade each other? It's kinda derailing the thread.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Ysh » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:43 pm

Hasta wrote:
Salad wrote:Not like either one of the systems are flawless, then again what system is, right?
Find one that is less abused than either one, than fuck sign me up.


My point exactly. All system have flaws. Everyone chooses the one he's more comfortable with (has nothing to do with abuse, it's about personal value system), or moves away.

Why you keep on trying to persuade each other? It's kinda derailing the thread.

Fundamental no system will working for every man because fundamental every man is not same. There is no way around this one.
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Re: Attacks in Nice

Postby Salad » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:44 pm

Hasta wrote:
Salad wrote:Not like either one of the systems are flawless, then again what system is, right?
Find one that is less abused than either one, than fuck sign me up.


My point exactly. All system have flaws. Everyone chooses the one he's more comfortable with (has nothing to do with abuse, it's about personal value system), or moves away.

Why you keep on trying to persuade each other? It's kinda derailing the thread.


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