You killed this game yourselves, devs.

[Kirby254]

Please do not allow players to vote on changes to the game, this game would be a mess. I vote for jorb and loftar choose what's going in. They have done this well so far.

[jasonc1982]

I do think they should release the original game but for off line play only or maybe lane play between computers on a network. that way people who enjoyed playing it can but it also wont effect the current game player base.

[Amanda44]

It won't die completely, the 300 odd core player base have shown that they love the game enough to deal with changes and new developments, even if not happy about all of them, they have stayed put even through lag-gate, lol, and are mainly still here even though there remain various gripes and issues with the new system, ( although we did lose some to the p2p aspect ) the problem is that those 300 probably aren't going to make much of a living for the devs and when they start dropping off as a lot of them do as the world goes on, having reached their goals, had their battles and lost their mains, ( leaving only the traders and the peaceful farmers/crafters/larpers ... who don't have an end game as such ) will there even be enough revenue to now sustain the game?

The game is still a brilliant game, I think it is now vastly improved in lots of ways from legacy and the devs have done a good job overall, but it is time to think about some form of advertising imo to draw more players in, in addition to making more information available to new players at the start of the game.

Word of mouth doesn't really seem to work for Haven, partly because it and the devs are unknown I think but also because it is very frustrating to a new player with so little guidance in the early stages, it is quite involved for a game and complicated in parts, then added to that the danger from the wildlife and other players, it is a lot to deal with as a new player.
We don't recognise this so much as we know what we are doing, most of the time, lol, know what to expect and we are used to the dangers and know how to avoid them, but you only have to read through posts from new players and the questions they ask, complaints they make to see this. Not everyone has the patience to stick through the learning process when they don't have a clue what they should be doing, and even less to stick with it after they have died in some way.
We seem to be the exception and not the majority.

I'm not exactly suggesting a tutorial, no-one bothers with them anyway, but just some bit of extra input in the initial stages.
Not everyone wants or likes to use the forum, esp ours, lol.

If they do manage to work it all out and stick around, they then get raided, murdered and raped by the wildlife, lol, come to the forum for help and get ridiculed or told to go play elsewhere .... .... and then they leave ....

We all need to do our part, devs included, to attract and then to keep the new players.

(Which also means not killing them while they are still naked and stealing their bits of bark .... )

[Redlaw]

I remember a few worlds ago, someone hunted down and killed every newb he ran across... swamp had bodies piled around it. Creepy sight, but how many of the new players would have stayed if he did not use them as decor for his lawn?

That is the type of things that kill the player base (literally). But it also adds to the game in ways that well remind people to be care full in what they do.

[tsuki44]

like in title this game officially is dead i dont see more than 200-300 players online and i guess like 50 of them are bots alts etc.
write here what do you think about that and i hope F2P will come back

[jorb]

Merged another thread on how the game is dead. Stickying for megathread.

(j/k)

[jordancoles]

Game's dead bro

There was actually 45 minutes just today where literally ZERO PEOPLE were playing this shit game

[jorb]

There was actually 45 minutes just today where literally ZERO PEOPLE were playing this shit game

This. It's back to Pony Island for me.

[tsuki44]

yep thats so good and fun to play with 250 players online

[rye130]

yep thats so good and fun to play with 250 players online

If you would like, I, as one of those 250 players, can come and murder you. Would that make it more fun to play?