VDZ wrote: ''lots of good points and well argued ones."
This guy gets it.
It's a complex set of answers, that for most people boil down to: "It just doesn't feel right what they're doing".
But in truth there's a whole lot of reasons.
Of which VDZ handles quite a lot, and in a very agreeable way.
For me it's like this:
They've made it so, that they feel guilty, or do not want something that is inherently in our nature and biology.
We are omnivores, it is only by our technological advances that there's ways for them to repress their own nature in such a way and they can survive / lead a healthy (physically) life.
I love animals, and as VDZ states, I am indeed against the bad treatment of animals, for no other reason than to treat them bad.
As well as terrible conditions in small cages etc. But i'm also from a place where farming knowledge and practicality is still a thing. There is no such thing as smart animal keeping / industrialization of keeping animals and not taking away from the animals, some freedom.
As VDZ again states: people start shifting morals to other things because they go like ''hey isn't it weird that we do this but don't do that?".
No, most people are just incapable of objective thinking.
This leaves me to believe that vegetarians and a slew of other people (because for instance they are not unlike religious people or other indoctrinated groups, or other classes of people) just lack common sense, good judgement and what can be considered a healthy set of morals.
Why don't I like vegetarians then?
They have pull in their environment, they get to reproduce, get to vote.
A whole bunch of people, with a skewed set of morals, lack of common sense and objective way of thinking has a minor influence in my life due to their social pull and right to vote etc.
Here in the netherlands there is actually a political party for animals... ''partij voor de dieren'' - party for the animals / animal party - directly and loosely translated respectively.
Politics, the thing meant to increase the standard of life, for humans, by using the goverments rules, and taxes, but for animals... WHAT THE ACTUAL FLYING FACK.
I'm a person that feels a lot of people have right to their opinions, as long as they have good reasons and facts to back it up with. But some of the shit these people put out, wants you to get a brick and sanitize the human genepool. It's that bad sometimes.
Well i'll just stop here, because VDZ put it better than I ever could, because halfway I tend to lose myself in anger and frustration about how dumb I find the subject sorts of people.
Sorry if some parts seemed REALLY extreme, or very rambly, but it just gets my tits in a knot, REALLY hard. Like telling some one the grass is green, and they insist it is blue. That's what it does for me xP
Fun fact, to take another part out of VDZ's post:
Ants actually do herding too, of sorts. They tend to and keep
aphid's.'
We might be the most soft hearted, smartest and most moral predators alive, but there's other animals that understand where
animal husbandry can lead you.
Though I don't quite believe they eat them, and only keep them for ''dairy'' purposes.
by linkfanpc » Tue May 10, 2016 6:31 am 
Lol. Yes. This is the solution for everything except the solution of life.
