Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

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What could make Hafen more popular except a new world?

Postby donatas » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:16 pm

What do you guys think would make haven and hearth 2/hafen more popular? More youtube videos, new reviews of hafen or a steam release or at least temporary, like for testing it out if steam does or allows such sort of thing. What do you guys think or even at least would suggest devs could could that is already possibly available to them and possible of doing?
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Re: What could make Hafen more popular except a new world?

Postby jordancoles » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:30 pm

Steam would help a lot as far as exposure, but I'd prefer regular updates to the game over another year of waiting while Loftar changes whole client so that it can connect with Steam
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Re: What could make Hafen more popular except a new world?

Postby wafflecat » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:55 am

An up to date YouTube video from a popular YouTuber would do wonders, like that video ProJared did a few years ago. Some new media on the front page could help as well.
A lot of people I talked to got turned off just by googling the game and seeing the old version, mistaking it for what the game is now. The rest got turned off by the lack of beginner-friendliness, but that's a whole different subject. I think nowadays the community is much less toxic than before, it's a good time to push and advertise the game.
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Re: What could make Hafen more popular except a new world?

Postby maze » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:58 am

The game updates are slowly bring people back.
Big updates really bring the community back.
world resets only Semi restart the life.

if J&L add more to the game in terms of village advancement.
or build onto parts of the game people want to "play as" then they will likely get more life.

currently a lot of people who are coming back to the game are playing a very nomad lifestyle.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:04 am

Merged with an older, identical thread.
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Re: What could make Hafen more popular except a new world?

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:14 pm

maze wrote:The game updates are slowly bring people back.
Big updates really bring the community back.
world resets only Semi restart the life.

if J&L add more to the game in terms of village advancement.
or build onto parts of the game people want to "play as" then they will likely get more life.

currently a lot of people who are coming back to the game are playing a very nomad lifestyle.


I think the major source of a self-generating fun and end-game are the plays vs player interactions. This should be the major focus for the development.
- Kingdom hierarchy, rights, structure overhaul;
- Make taverns and etc. feasible (easy to do, idk why they wouldn't do a quick fix to make it possible to eat from the tables without stealing);
- Make mini-games and gambling possible
- Make PvP more about teamplay, than stats vs stats/ fix alting issue (make Opportunity Knocks require credo completition) and etc.
- The list goes on
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby iamahh » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:56 pm

client performance comes first, devs are on the right track...

would be nice to get rid of that feeling you can't take a break from the chores or else when you come back your base is ded...
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby sMartins » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:15 pm

I think players interactions are the key.
Kids in this game are all scared to death ... i have a char with super low stats, cause i don't play that much, but everytime i meet someone in the game i go to talk with them, and everytime they run away, scared as fuck lol :D ... probably they also have 100x stats more than me.

I know that is not that great in certain circumstances, but i think we need some in game graphic to indicate if a player is bad or good.
We need people to trust other people, to play together and so on ... this i think could help a lot the game popularity.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby mgmmads » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:41 pm

Pretty simple, Nuke all the bots. Nobody wants to play a game where you will never have a chance, based on hard work. Especially if you have 50% of the game population scratching their butt, while they watch their character make food.
and add game moderators, to take care of some of the people who does nothing but scream and shout offensive sentences at people. (You know, a little good ol' mute or kick for some time).

But I guess these changes would also remove half the existing population, but in time the amount of people that left due to these kind of changes, will be replacedm by other, more worthy and beneficial people. :lol:
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby dafels » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:07 pm

Make competitive play more about skill instead of it being all about stats, botting and many other crap won't be a problem then.
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