Would Jorbtar move to America?

[Jalpha]

Guns are not banned or regulated properly and result in thousands of deaths yearly.

Ain't the guns that kill people. It's the attitudes and beliefs.

This is true. When our gun control laws came into effect sure, there was less shootings but... Violent crime remained stable and people started stabbing each other instead. Personally I think I'd rather be shot than stabbed but I guess that's up to an individuals preference.

I'd also like to point out that drones have vulnerabilities. I won't go into what they are because I'm probably already on a terrorist watch-list and I don't want to make things any worse for myself lol.

I also agree that citizens should always have the right to rise up and depose those who rule them, even through violence, as a last resort.

[NOOBY93]

Guns are not banned or regulated properly and result in thousands of deaths yearly.

Ain't the guns that kill people. It's the attitudes and beliefs.

This is true. When our gun control laws came into effect sure, there was less shootings but... Violent crime remained stable and people started stabbing each other instead. Personally I think I'd rather be shot than stabbed but I guess that's up to an individuals preference.

I'd also like to point out that drones have vulnerabilities. I won't go into what they are because I'm probably already on a terrorist watch-list and I don't want to make things any worse for myself lol.

I also agree that citizens should always have the right to rise up and depose those who rule them, even through violence, as a last resort.

I think it's way more complicated than "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE".

I believe making it easier for someone to kill someone else is just more reason for him to do it. If you gave everyone a button that stealthily removes whomever they want, from existence, do you think the murder rates would be the same? They would skyrocket. If there's no guns, people don't have the balls nor the motivation to stab people to death, shooting someone is much easier and killers are okay with, for example, shooting someone cleanly and effectively, but not okay with bashing someone to death with a teaspoon.

[Jalpha]

Maybe the demographic here is different though because murder rates stayed the same. I agree with you in some ways though, like our welfare system affecting peoples needs and lowering the need to commit violence simply to survive. I also think thinks like school shootings is a result of a sick society. It's abundantly clear to me that those kids were bullied and tortured if not at home definitely by their school and class mates. Everyone has their breaking point, and this highlights my biggest issue with american societal values.

[jordancoles]

I believe making it easier for someone to kill someone else is just more reason for him to do it. If you gave everyone a button that stealthily removes whomever they want, from existence, do you think the murder rates would be the same? They would skyrocket. If there's no guns, people don't have the balls nor the motivation to stab people to death, shooting someone is much easier and killers are okay with, for example, shooting someone cleanly and effectively, but not okay with bashing someone to death with a teaspoon.

Yeah pre much what I've been saying since forever lol

It takes a certain type of person to be able to stab a motherfucker and I'd like to think that the antisocial guy with low self-confidence or the dude who has never been in a fight in his life aside from getting his ass beat by his dad might think twice if he knew that he would have to overpower someone to actually do the deed

[Jalpha]

It takes a certain type of person to be able to stab a motherfucker and I'd like to think that the antisocial guy with low self-confidence or the dude who has never been in a fight in his life aside from getting his ass beat by his dad might think twice if he knew that he would have to overpower someone to actually do the deed

I don't actually agree with this at all because it's a band-aid solution and doesn't fix the underlying cause of the issue. Disarming the proletariat is too high a price for something that only serves to protect people who are generally just a bunch of assholes anyway. Welfare and a socially aware populace are much better solutions in my view, and work out to be cheaper in the end than say the USAs incarceration system as an example.

[NOOBY93]

only serves to protect people who are generally just a bunch of assholes anyway

lmao why do you have the right to vote?

[ven]

The US is a social experiment created by our alien overlords, stop trying to make it make sense. I think we'll all agree Canada is the only developed country in America.

[Jalpha]

only serves to protect people who are generally just a bunch of assholes anyway

lmao why do you have the right to vote?

Don't know, don't care. I don't vote.

Also all I saw of citizens of the USA while I was there was overwhelming fascism and arrogant assholes preying upon the ignorant and stupid. There were very few examples of what I would consider "decent folk" to be encountered there. In my view this defines them as

generally just a bunch of assholes

[Potjeh]

Well the problem is people just don't give enough of a fuck then, which means things aren't bad enough quite yet. When there's a critical mass of citizens angry at the establishment, new political movements can spring up seemingly out of nowhere and take over the government. Granted, that more often goes bad than good, but slowly suffocating in status quo isn't much of an alternative.

Wrong again. Even if a new part is elected it mist respect and follow and respect international treaties and national ones. So once they got elected they have no alternatives because they are inside a logical-legal system and going against it is going against the legal system. A treatise signed by a thief is a treat anyways so you must respect it otherwise you are a populist and a tyrannic something media will keep repating again and again. There is no alternative Potjeh. It doesnt matter what you do because money is money and laws are laws. Media will allways say: stock market has rised or going to the shit depending o n their masters. Is a win-win situation for plutocratic parties and bananic republics.

No, I mean a really radical change of system. Some really out there ideology, hence why I said these things more often go bad than good, and when they do go good they tend to still be bad while the new system stabilizes.

[shampizle]

naming a president means shit to this country all the power comes from is congress. the president is there as a figure head. he gets blamed if congress doesnt get shit done.

second yea theres a lot of dumb ass ppl in america. but thing is we have alot of people. if u did IQ test and maybe come up with a common sense test, im pretty sure the % of people would be the same across all countries. you think all ppl are stupid because what you probably seen on tv. if you actually came to america and visited all different states u would notice about 80% of ppl are actually smart in both iq and common sense. but the tv secene lives off corruption, stupid, hot, and egotesical mind frames because it gives them viewers. we're what 15th in education ranking, which isnt bad. not good but still note worthy. but we also have a fuck ton more people to deal with.