What do i need to learn to make a game like haven and hearth

[Zampfeo]

Its crazy to think that you would have to pay for studying.

You also pay for your studying. It's in the form of a 50%+ income tax. I couldn't imagine having that. Everyone in America sees their first paycheck and is surprised by the amount the government takes even with our relatively low income tax.

In Finland you pay once like 100€, then you can study for free, and with that price you get stuff lot of benefits, like some healthcare stuff. Of course you have to buy food and stuff like that by yourself, but you get some money from the government to do that. Education quality is good also. Who really cares about rankings. For most people it does not matter.

Not everyone needs an education above a high school level(age 18), so why make it free? Here in America we have a problem of too many people in college even with the high costs because everyone can get a loan. Too many useless degrees, too many people going into fields of study they cannot comprehend, too many "over qualified" employees, too few skilled trademen. The people who actually should be going to college, those with high marks and community involvement, do end up going for free through scholarships anyway.

University rankings are just one way more to fool brainwashed american capitalists to think that it is right to ask more money for education.

If you think the USA doesn't have the world's best Universities, you're delusional. If there's one thing that capitalism does, it makes the most out of the best people in our country. There's a reason the worlds largest companies and technological advancements come out of the US.

and 0% for the higher class.
I hope you dont think that either of them is a good thing.

What?

The top 1% of Americans pay nearly half of the nation's income taxes. Our highest tax bracket is 39.6% for $470,700+ earners. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-p ... taxes.html

I won't pretend we don't have income inequality, but to say the higher class pays 0% is hyperbole.

[MagicManICT]

This thread has horribly derailed... Let's try to keep the politics out of it and on topic, please. I feel triggered and a need to respond to the presumptions, assumptions, and lack of knowledge. We do have a couple of other politics threads if you guys want to carry on the conversation there, I'll be glad to split it off.

[shubla]

Its crazy to think that you would have to pay for studying.

You also pay for your studying. It's in the form of a 50%+ income tax. I couldn't imagine having that. Everyone in America sees their first paycheck and is surprised by the amount the government takes even with our relatively low income tax.

You can ask nearly any finn and they would rather take the "high" taxes than the system you have in america. Also its not 50%+ income tax. Totally not. We have cool system called progressive taxing, if you are dirt poor, you dont pay that much taxes, maybe not even taxes (from your income) at all, government might even give you subsidies if your income is not enough to live. The more income you have, more you pay. This year, 2017, you paid more than 50% taxes ONLY if your yearly income was more than 185 000 euros. Which is a lot. Average finn pays about ~30% of income tax. But you can get it back in form of subsidies, for example if you have children, you get some child benefit and so on.

Americans are selfish shitheads. Not everyone gets equal cards when they are born. With taxation and stuff these differences can be evened out.

We can compare countries and Finland is a lot better place than America. We can see how well capitalism works.

Not everyone needs an education above a high school level(age 18), so why make it free? Here in America we have a problem of too many people in college even with the high costs because everyone can get a loan. Too many useless degrees, too many people going into fields of study they cannot comprehend, too many "over qualified" employees, too few skilled trademen. The people who actually should be going to college, those with high marks and community involvement, do end up going for free through scholarships anyway.

It is free in Finland, but not everyone goes to university. You have made the system bad yourself. There is a huge commercial interest in getting people to study in your expensive colleges, resulting in more people going.

If you think the USA doesn't have the world's best Universities, you're delusional. If there's one thing that capitalism does, it makes the most out of the best people in our country. There's a reason the worlds largest companies and technological advancements come out of the US.

I said that it does not matter what ranking the university is. For most people, it does not matter, they just want a degree, like you said earlier. Maybe if you want to do some advanced researchor such, being in a university that has special skill in that area might be helpful.
What is the point in " oh we have best universities in the world!" when you yourself think that the system sucks?

What?

The top 1% of Americans pay nearly half of the nation's income taxes. Our highest tax bracket is 39.6% for $470,700+ earners. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-p ... taxes.html

You also have very inequally balanced incomes.

[MagicManICT]

I don't particularly want to Hel your guy's tete a tete, but it's completely gone off the rails. There's other threads for this stuff. Last warning.

[MagicManICT]

We were talking about platforms last and ran across this blog post on Gamasutra on the death of a platform (Flash) and what the developers will need to go over to update their games.

https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DougPea ... f_Code.php

[shubla]

We were talking about platforms last and ran across this blog post on Gamasutra on the death of a platform (Flash) and what the developers will need to go over to update their games.

https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DougPea ... f_Code.php

Its quite difficult to make platforms and keep them up for dozens of years without the result being something like flash or windows.
You just have to completely recode everything every now and then.

[MagicManICT]

Its quite difficult to make platforms and keep them up for dozens of years without the result being something like flash or windows.
You just have to completely recode everything every now and then.

From talking to someone that has worked in the industry, certain financial institutions are still running code base from the late 1960s because getting off that base would be bug ridden and costlier than to continue to maintain it.

[drakesaint]

I feel triggered

[shubla]

Its quite difficult to make platforms and keep them up for dozens of years without the result being something like flash or windows.
You just have to completely recode everything every now and then.

From talking to someone that has worked in the industry, certain financial institutions are still running code base from the late 1960s because getting off that base would be bug ridden and costlier than to continue to maintain it.

Well of course you can run systems with old code. But im sure that it increases the difficulties of adding or changing anything. I guess this is common with governments as well, at least in Finland.