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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby sMartins » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:21 pm

And when sex is not taboo anymore, young people go towards drugs, etc... those that still are taboos.

Love (and sex) is irrationality, and so stronger than us, we cannot control it. Be careful, it's not a joke ..... and always respect other people feelings.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Potjeh » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:22 pm

You guys seriously think people weren't having extramarital sex back in the day?
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Potjeh wrote:You guys seriously think people weren't having extramarital sex back in the day?


Human population increase was directly caused by OP's maternal line.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby sMartins » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:23 pm

Potjeh wrote:You guys seriously think people weren't having extramarital sex back in the day?

Of course not, but it was taboo ... so also way more interesting to break the law. Now kids have to break others law, way worse, such as alchool and drugs.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Procne » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:58 pm

Potjeh wrote:You guys seriously think people weren't having extramarital sex back in the day?

Of course they were. But it was frowned upon, which, in turn, made it harder.
Just like the notion of theft being wrong doesn't mean people won't be stealing. But still it makes it harder when society sees it as something wrong. Kids will be taught to not steal. It gives bad reputation and society (not just the victim) will actively apprehend the thief. So the theft will be discouraged. Compare western and eastern Europe cultures, where bribes and theft, to some degree, are generally accepted in eastern Europe.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:11 pm

Potjeh wrote:You guys seriously think people weren't having extramarital sex back in the day?

Yeah... it's why Sodom was annihilated and Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt... for looking back at what she was leaving behind.

Like all fairy tales, I'm sure there's truth in the biblical legends, but let's be seriuos. Sodom was about like Nero's Rome--lax and ripe for plucking. It's why the Athenians clashed with the Spartans over military matters. One wanted to be prepared for all eventualities, the other wanted to pursue more intellectual or spiritual things, or just "be free." One couldn't have existed without the other, though. It was a symbiotic relationship neither of them fully realized or appreciated.

Back to ancient Greece: it's worth noting that the even the largest of pyramids are only out of square by a fraction of an inch. Surveying tools were available and created by either the Egyptians, the Babylonians, or Sumerians. It's not a huge stretch to take basic surveying tools and figure out that the Earth is in fact A) round, and B) make a fairly accurate measure of it's circumference. That a Greek did it first... well, bully for them. I don't deny that we lost a massive amount of knowledge and wisdom from the Iron Age. Information just wasn't as wide spread as it is now and limited to very few individuals.

But is that any different today? We are, in general, more educated and wiser than generations before, but that doesn't mean we're immune to another Dark Age in human history. In fact, we're at greater risk of self annihilation than ever before due to overpopulation. A shortage of resources for one of the superpowers is all it is going to take to light the match the burns the world... assuming we don't smoke ourselves to death with all the fossil fuel burning.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Lunarius_Haberdash » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:15 pm

MagicManICT wrote: That a Greek did it first... well, bully for them.


I thought it was an Egyptian who did it first by observing the shadows of monoliths at different locations?
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Jalpha » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:29 pm

So did I.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Potjeh » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:50 am

I'd argue people were having more sex back in the day, because it was pretty much the only real entertainment they had besides drinking. Today's tech makes hermiting too alluring, and that decreases chances of finding sex partners.
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Re: Human Population Through Time

Postby Jalpha » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:08 am

Spoken like a true hermit. Can relate.

Statistics are showing a drop in the number of sexual partners and that people are waiting longer before having sex. Yet there is a drop in the number of traditional relationships as the millenials opt for more "friends with benefits" style relationships.

I'm going to suggest this breakdown in the family model which seems to be emerging has more to do with other factors. Female empowerment being the main factor. Women no longer require a partner. They can support themselves and can collect offspring from different partners without having to commit to a single male. If they do, often a much weaker male is selected as a cucked and disposable victim to provide income during those times when the woman finds work difficult.

To retain the old family model the first step would be to suppress female independence. We are better off adapting with the flow of society instead of against it in my opinion.

However, this is not the only factor;

The huge expense involved in raising a family now is a deterrent towards starting one at all.

The future looks grim as we face challenges caused by overpopulation as opposed to underpopulation.

The selfish nature of each individual which is being encouraged as a direct result of rampant consumerism.

The rise and acceptance of homosexuality.

I'm sure there are plenty more reasons. Stop blaming promiscuity. It is not the cause.

Thus is like saying the sole cause of rising global temperatures is CO2 emissions. Honestly people seem incapable of seeing the bigger picture.
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