by Ysh » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:21 pm I have question about strategy for genie. For the men who are not knowing, this genie (also call some time as jinn or djinn) is magical creature in Islam faith. The Quran describing them as being no smoked scorching fires, but with some physical form that can interact with an object. So the men could maybe push this genie, but it burns them to do it. So I think I do not recommend to touch it, but know it is possible to do it. This genie has some free wills like human men do, but it is well known that genie must be binding himself to phylactery to have his immortal powers. This is frequent depict as lamp in many popular culture, but it can be any object like some jewelry or crystal. Lamp is quite convenient for him because it can double as housing for him for sleeping. It can be important for this genie to be protection of the phylactery, because if it is destroy then this genie is also destroy. Very not good for him! Genie has strong magic power which is ''power of wishing'' and he can grant some wish, so to fight against genie is not good ideas for mundane mortal men.
But there is some drawbacks. The men who holds the genie phylactery can not have genie use the powers to harming him without explicit word from this man. But the issue is of this definition of ''harming him.'' What the men thinks is harm can vary from man to man. There is no clear defined rule for it. And if genie uses wish that will harm the man, this genie will be destroy. So in effect, this genie can not use the power without some explicit words from his keeper. It is well known that to get out of situation, this genie will offer some wish to this keeper as bargain for his release. Why man will take any bargain from genie some people is wondering? This is because the man who keeps this genie can not compel him to act. Genie just can not act against this man of his own will. But this genie is bound by contract. If genie makes agreement, he is require to keep his word and you are also. But keeping in mind that like other types of demon (e.g. devils, lawyers), this word is only useful as it is written. Soulless creature like these do not care for some ''spirit of the rule'' just letter of this law.
I think it can be important for discussing this, because more genie will come and affect the life of the men on these forum in future day. Islam is quite popular religion and many migrant who study it is coming to some area like Europe, which has many forum user here from this place. With Islam will come these Islam genie, I am thinking. So it can be good for us to talk some strategies for best exploit this new opportunity of genie wish.
I can share some basic strategy. Most genie will have standard genie rider of some things like ''no compound wish'' (i.e. can not wish for statement using words like ''and'' or ''additionally,'' it is just one wish unit per wish usage), ''can not wish for more wishes,'' ''genie reserving right to refuse any wish'', ''can not wish for power to grant wishes,'' ''can not wish for equal or greater power than genie'', ''can not wish to be genie or other magic being with greater powers,'' ''can not wish to break one of this rule,'' ''can not wish for genie to revoke his own power after freedom,'' ''can not wish for anything which is against free will of a creature,'' ''must use all wish within certain timeframe,'' (generally 1-10 years) ''wish is nontransferable,'' ''wish has no cash value, unless wish is used to wish for cash,'' and so on. Your genie will give you list of what is allowed, but it is usual very similar between genie and other genie. General, it is just to cover this genie so that after he is free, he does not usurp his own powers by granting the man greater powers, else it may be very easy for the man to enslave this genie later. Similar, once genie is free, you must beware of his wrath! It is not wise to be spending wishes and then putting self into position where you are powerless to fight this genie if he wants some revenge for you exploiting him. These riders are sometimes negotiable. Remember you do not need to take first genie offer! But also remember this genie is immortal and can wait out your lifespan when you are playing too much hardball, so be careful not to squander opportunity.
Basic strategy is to checking for some missing or poorly worded riders and exploiting for more wish. Some example:
Strategy for 0 Wish
- Working hard to achieve success from own powers.
I advise to refuse single wish offer for freedom from genie. It is very hard to do it and be safe from wrath of genie after. Maybe if genie is trustworthy you can just take some standard perk (e.g. money, fame, skill, immortality), but this is very risky maneuver. It is weak to genie who does try to rules lawyer you and his wrath after freedom and I think to trust a genie is not wise moves.
- Wish for more wishes. Does not work with ''can not wish for more wish rider,'' which is highly standard. I think no genie is so foolish to do it, but maybe you are lucky.
- Offer genie to play against you in game of skill or game of chance with condition that you are winning some wish if you win (pick some valuable thing for him if you lose, like your wishes or his freedom). If he accepts, then wish to win that game. I think genie is maybe unlikely to accept this game, but it is no risk to you to offer it, since it is not costing any wish.
- Wish to break rule for a wish; wish for more wishes. Does not work with ''can not wish to break wishing rule,'' so I think this one is very unlikely to be useful.
- Wish for standard perk; wish for some power to help remain safe from genie. Maybe does not work under some ''can not wish for more power than genie'' rules. I think maybe some genie will allow some powers if they are strictly defensive. Or if you are weaker than him, but strong enough that to hurt you would be real hassle, but this is some risky. This is also weak to some wish backfiring, as you can not keep a spare wish for undo mistake wish.
- Wish for standard perk; wish for some paradox. I do not know what happen if you will wish for paradox. Maybe forbidden under ''genie can refuse any wish'' rule. It is possible it will somehow destroy genie just like robot in movie. Or maybe it is destroying reality. Probably a big risk play.
- Wish to clone reality in some other dimension that you have some good powers in; wish genie can not affect this dimension. Maybe genie has some rules on wish complexity. This is certain very complex strategy, so it can maybe be ban.
- In general, for 3 wish strategy you will using 2 wish strategy and banking 3rd wish as failsafe if thing does not happen as you plan.
- How many wish you do need to execute strategy?
- What genie rule clauses would prevent this strategy from working?
- How likely do you think this clause is to appear based on your past experience with genie?
