flash banged?

[viznew]

so i was in seattle today and managed to get flash banged and pepper sprayed lol im not even sure why thay protesting (prob oppose the racist rally in nc) i was passing throu, its not even that bad after the pepper spray wear off i though flash bangs whould be worse....


anyone else ever stand next to a flash bang granade when it goes off?

[Headchef]

I use them on the daily, connected to my radio alarm, how about you guys?

[viznew]

I use them on the daily, connected to my radio alarm, how about you guys?

even thou the fire hazard is prob minimal its prob effective at waking im mostly deaf but i heard it loud and clear and felt it throu my body, the shrapnel was not horriable

[Kaios]

lol im not even sure why thay protesting (prob oppose the racist rally in nc)

Unfortunately you were an innocent victim of squabbles between ignorant people which is a fairly common occurrence in North America these days. I'm almost certain that a large majority of the attendees at the alt-right rally don't actually hold any racist notions, they are simply a group of people that love their country and the values that it stands for. Yet they are still held to the standards of the few white supremacists that do support such a movement grouping them in with pretty much anyone that supports Donald Trump.

You will often hear left-wing counter-protesters spouting out insults like fascist, racist and nazi or reading it on their signs but more often than not they are saying it towards people that could care less about one's race, creed or colour, spewing this hatred on the basis that someone might hate the ideology that Islam represents for example. It's my opinion that the liberals who so often like to consider themselves peaceful and claim they are speaking out against racism and the oppression of freedom of spreech are quite literally the epitome of fascism itself and cause more violence than they pretend to prevent.

I'm just Canadian tho so what do I know really I'm not actually in there experiencing anything first-hand but there is certainly plenty of evidence out there to allow people to come to their own conclusions.

[viznew]

both sides are at fault imo in this situation, the right seems to be provokeing the left i was guided by the cops throu the left side right before it went a little crazy, and most the right doesn't seem racist i can agree its a small portion thats actually trying to make it about that, just too much damn passion on the streets i felt everyone there loves usa at least


edit: went and looked at pics and vids (to see if im in em lol) then i noticed that people were burning us flags wtf guess i was wrong about everyone loving usa lol

[Kaios]

Well in the same way the Right has their extremists like the white supremacists the Left has plenty of their own extremists as well. On the Left groups such as ANTIFA and BLM will incite violence during their protests through slanderous name-calling, burning and other forms of desecration towards the flag or destruction of public and personal property all in an effort to get their point across but in all honesty I am not sure what that point is when a group preaches one thing yet does the opposite and then attempts to call it peaceful protest.

I did watch some footage of the Seattle Freedom rally and of the Solidarity Against Hate rally and in my opinion the police did a really great job at keeping the two groups separate from each other for the most part even though you could still hear tons of booing as the Freedom rally organizers and other speakers addressed the crowd. Of course when you see Riot police on the news pepper spraying protesters most major media outlets spin this as a severe transgression against the American people but when you take in to consideration the most likely outcome if those two groups had been allowed to converge you would definitely see a lot more violence involved.

[Potjeh]

Remind me, which side deliberately plowed into a crowd with a car? How come when it's the left doing that stuff it's always the whole side's fault, but when it's the right it's always just one crazy person who if you look closely enough is no true Scotsman?

[Kaios]

Remind me, which side deliberately plowed into a crowd with a car? How come when it's the left doing that stuff it's always the whole side's fault, but when it's the right it's always just one crazy person who if you look closely enough is no true Scotsman?

The drivers doing that do get in some trouble for it I am sure, depending on the severity and the extent of injuries involved but from most of the videos I've seen it's only when the person in the vehicle feels threatened or their vehicle is physically assaulted/attempted to be broken into that they actually try to drive away and in the process they ram or run over protesters. If you want my blunt opinion I'd say don't be a traffic blocking moron in the first place but I do feel bad for the people that are usually injured or killed because it's usually not them who provoked the driver but a fewer number of more aggressive individuals that decided they wanted to beat on a car or beat on the person inside.

I'm not really sure what I would do if I were in the same situation but I do know for sure that being surrounded by any group of aggressive people is a scary experience regardless of the circumstances. But when it comes to vehicles it should be an easy thing to avoid, don't block traffic and don't start a fight with a person in 4 ton or heavier metal death machine.

Also I see nothing wrong with those times when someone is slowly pushing forward upon people that are deliberately blocking a vehicle. Get out of the way, don't cry that you're being assaulted when you're doing it on purpose.

[viznew]

theres rumors he planed the car atk for some reason,the orgainzers tryed to frame a left wing protester then thay removed the tweet lol its all crazy, crowds of hostile people is choas but im deaf so i see it different then someone who knows whats happening around them

its only a matter of time before it all gets resolved and i think we can all agree it took to long

[Kaios]

The Charlottesville car attack is definitely one of the more severe occurrences of this happening but I'd like to see better/more footage of the time leading up to that situation before I believe in any conspiracy theory nonsense. The people driving aren't normally associated with either group because they aren't actually out protesting but rather trying to get to work or somewhere else. It's hard to trust media sources about an individual's beliefs since they will go as far as to associate "Make America Great Again" with white nationalism when it's the furthest from it so I don't know what to think on the man's reasons, if any, for such a heinous act if deliberate.