Individuality, for or against.

[shubla]

Gay couples and atheists are more likely to support the individuality of their child since they themselves are far more likely to have been a victim of unwanted indoctrination in their childhood as a result of being different.

Who says individuality is a good thing?

There is also the fact that once we start looking at humanity as a community rather than family vs family we will all be much better off

In modern countries, like Finland. We already have a community based society, instead of family vs family, like american capitalist pigs have.
You should give up and accept that socialism is a good thing?

[shubla]

Who says it isn't?

But that's a huge question probably deserving of its own thread.

muh freedom, muh individuality

People are most easily controlled when they are in large groups of similiar things. Think of sheep.
Most people are like sheep. They want the same things and are easy to control and manipulate.
It would be much harder to herd lot of different animals then one single animal. If everybody would
do and want different things, it would lead to bad things. There is a reason why most people are quite
similiar when compared to each other. People would run out of ideas when trying to be unique anyway.

[Jalpha]

Why turn people into sheeple? Why not just go all the way and create a society controlled by the matriarchy like bees or ants. Maybe that's our destiny.

Individuals can also contribute, they are just much more difficult to manage.

[Jalpha]

Mods please merge from the family thread. Good line of disvussion with high derail potential.

Gay couples and atheists are more likely to support the individuality of their child since they themselves are far more likely to have been a victim of unwanted indoctrination in their childhood as a result of being different.

Who says individuality is a good thing

Who says it isn't?

But that's a huge question probably deserving of its own thread.

Who says it isn't?

But that's a huge question probably deserving of its own thread.

muh freedom, muh individuality

People are most easily controlled when they are in large groups of similiar things. Think of sheep.
Most people are like sheep. They want the same things and are easy to control and manipulate.
It would be much harder to herd lot of different animals then one single animal. If everybody would
do and want different things, it would lead to bad things. There is a reason why most people are quite
similiar when compared to each other. People would run out of ideas when trying to be unique anyway.

Why turn people into sheeple? Why not just go all the way and create a society controlled by the matriarchy like bees or ants. Maybe that's our destiny.

Individuals can also contribute, they are just much more difficult to manage.

[Zampfeo]

I'm an American capitalist pig and proud selfish asshole. I'm the most important person in my life and don't need no socialism.

[Jalpha]

The irony of that statement though is that the USA is one of the worst countries for persecuting citizens who don't conform, else what have all your school shootings been about? There is the illusion of individuality in america, or some kind of quasi individuality, but true individuality is rare. The population is self policing and forces anyone who won't become part of the flock to the outside. Even gays can't really make any claim at individuality, they are being absorbed now.

Then there is the religious conformity...

Individuals make better leaders, or herders of the flock (the classic are you a wolf or a sheep analogy). They aren't an essential part of the herd, but the herd can function better with them in proximity.

If we look far enough back in history we can compare two classic civilisations, the celts and the romans. The celts were very individual, especially in warfare. The romans became a herd animal, and their military success is the best example of this. It's why they won. However so much individuality was lost.

[MagicManICT]

It's why military training beats the individuality out of you. It's counter-productive to being an efficient machine. And a machine it is, one designed to grind the enemy down, not itself on improperly fitting gears.

Same can be said for corporate culture. Public schools are 100% designed to prepare children to be corporate drones, either in a factory or the office. Even the "express yourself, judgement free" zones some schools are trying to become, it's merely a way to make people happier in their strangling 9 to 5 job.

They say it's better if you don't see behind the curtain... or to quote a philosopher (Voltaire I believe), "Innocence is bliss." Sometimes one just has to ask "Why didn't I take the blue pill?"

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I'm an American capitalist pig and proud selfish asshole. I'm the most important person in my life and don't need no socialism.

this is like 75% of Americans and this is also why the "twinkle down effect" is shit. too many greedy capitalists big business owners/ corporations, taking the money they make and sticking it back into their own pockets. when in a perfect reality they should of taken that money and put it back into the economy if that meaning going back to their employers (benifits, raises, ect) or branching out and making more businesses to make more money. what irritates me is that they also get tax breaks, which means more money to fill their pockets, while the lower class keep getting poorer the rich get richer. America is built on capitalism for all the wrong reasons.

on topic, communisim and sosialism where everyone is working together or as one are actually very good things to have and be part of as long as the 'leader" has a good head on their shoulders..
it all comes down to how that person/people are morally.

[Jalpha]

Your first paragraph was also on topic tbh. It' a prime example of how people who are perhaps born to be individuals through no fault of their own are not being provided a path to self fulfilment.

[NOOBY93]

It's why military training beats the individuality out of you. It's counter-productive to being an efficient machine. And a machine it is, one designed to grind the enemy down, not itself on improperly fitting gears.

Same can be said for corporate culture. Public schools are 100% designed to prepare children to be corporate drones, either in a factory or the office. Even the "express yourself, judgement free" zones some schools are trying to become, it's merely a way to make people happier in their strangling 9 to 5 job.

They say it's better if you don't see behind the curtain... or to quote a philosopher (Voltaire I believe), "Innocence is bliss." Sometimes one just has to ask "Why didn't I take the blue pill?"

That's tinfoil hat trash. I don't think there's a mastermind behind the schooling system, and "strangling" 9 to 5 job? There's nothing strangling about it, it's an easy way to survive and thrive, if you don't like it, just sell drugs and you'll be able to live comfortably while not working at all.

The "red pill/blue pill" shit is a condescending way to call people who call you delusional, delusional.

Man I wish I had just taken the blue pill so I could still be indoctrinated and think the Earth is round..