Education is overrated.

[Jalpha]

Also a high school dropout to be honest however I have since gained certificate level education in several fields and a technical trade. Education is no substitute for curiosity and just simply observing things around you. I'm a proponent of the belief that education ruins the potential for discovery by teaching you what and how to think. Still, the world needs mindless workers and that is what the education system produces.

Strangely perhaps the negotiation for my exit from schooling was decided by the fact that I was always questioning things and refused to accept incorrect or contradictory information without further explanation. The teacher said "He doesn't believe us and what we are teaching and I'm starting to question things myself. He needs to go out and find the answers for himself in the real world. We're ruining him." Of course the reality was much more complex but that was that and I agreed to leave.

I was causing too much trouble.

Again, education has its place however it is totally overrated.

Pretty much this. Education has a place but how necessary is it? Would you rather be a mindless office drone or a free thinking individual?

What about for your kids?

[Granger]

Wikipedia:

Education is the process of facilitating learning, or the acquisition of knowledge, skills, values, beliefs, and habits.

The first three are a must (enabling you to actually learn) and the last can be helpful to assist the first three.

Question is how the current education system implements the last three, in that regard I see massive deficits (especially the values and beliefs parts).

[Jalpha]

Hmm. I think there is a lot more which is broken about education now, particularly higher education (University level). There was a time when great minds spoke openly in a forum about ideas and decided what was real and made discoveries.

My impression of higher education nowdays it that students are taught to find what someone else has said and to paraphrase it.

I have a problem with that.

[pheonixA]

your argument mightve had a point until i ask, where are you currently living?

[Granger]

Hmm. I think there is a lot more which is broken about education now, particularly higher education (University level). There was a time when great minds spoke openly in a forum about ideas and decided what was real and made discoveries.

With 'massive deficits in the latter three' I was refering to stuff like PC, SJW and similar shit that employs allegedly 'good' (but baseless) values to compell 'right' (unquestioned) beliefs onto others, aimed at forcing them into 'good' (conforming) habits - leading in a widespread madness that effectively destroys the minds of formerly sane, clear thinking people.

Leading to shit like this or that, surely both being protraied somewhat exaggerated but as time passes reality sadly is catching up onto it.

My impression of higher education nowdays it that students are taught to find what someone else has said and to paraphrase it.

I have a problem with that.

Which is completely reasonable.

[Jalpha]

your argument mightve had a point until i ask, where are you currently living?

Do you want to venture down that philosophical rabbit hole? Let's start by examining your education and guaging to what extent you've been brainwashed by society and your education. It's hard to think outside the box.

I wouldn't want to live your life either

Living in a car is a growing trend. I reject capitalistic principles and being tied down by material goods. Remember when I was making $600 per day and still refused to bow to capitalism and the Australian housing market? Almost enough here for another thread but it's totally on topic.

I am a free thinking individual and I make decisions based on my beliefs not the demands of the dominant social paradigm.

[jordancoles]

Regardless of how smart you might think you are, a high school diploma is the bare minimum requirement for employment in North America. Even if you're some brain child that is somehow above their instructors at a young age, you still need that piece of paper or shit is not going to be enjoyable for you.

University on the other hand is a different thing entirely and if I were hiring someone I would likely consider people with college diplomas over people who only have a university degree. The teaching styles are very different and in a big way universities should just be looked at as a way to increase your baseline earnings rather than as a way to actually become proficient in your field. I say this in relation to the social services though, the sciences are much more content-focused and relevant to their field as far as I've heard.

[Jalpha]

Sucks to live in N.A. then. Honestly I have seen nowhere globally as incapable of free thought as the USA.

[jordancoles]

Living in a car is a growing trend. I reject capitalistic principles and being tied down by material goods. Remember when I was making $600 per day and still refused to bow to capitalism and the Australian housing market? Almost enough here for another thread but it's totally on topic.

Doing what? Prostitution?

Making $40/hr and working 11 hours per day you'd still only be making $440/day

[Jalpha]

Prozzies make a lot more than that you ignoramus.