To alt or not to alt?

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To alt or not to alt?

Postby JellyCreeper » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:02 am

First of all hey guys, I'm new to the Haven and Hearth community and i really do enjoy it here. :D :D

I really love this game. However, I find it very strange that creating an alt character is not only seen as fine but the reasonable thing to do to deal with specific situations, specially as a solo player.
However, i think most would definitely agree that if every situation in the game that would require an alt (such as hard labour) could be worked around in a way that would benefit your character (gain stats by hard labour for example) that would dissuade some people from creating alts. It is just a suggestion however I would love to hear how you guys feel about alts and if you think they are essential to play the game (considering there is pvp and other shenanigans).
Please leave a comment with you opinions and suggestions and your position on the use of alts. :?:
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby Grog » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:24 am

Hi there, and welcome!

It really depends on the playstyle.
If you're just doodling around, no alt is required.

So since you're probably a nooby hermit, you won't need one.
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby Bullrog » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:58 am

So just checking... For a friend. We can alt by creating a second account using the same email address and just different log in information? And this is ok?
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby JellyCreeper » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:38 am

Bullrog wrote:So just checking... For a friend. We can alt by creating a second account using the same email address and just different log in information? And this is ok?


Actually you can. The main topic of the discussion is brought up by the fact that many of the solutions made by people in different threads is "just use and alt for..."
or "just use an alt as..." and dismissing issues as "if they can be fixed by using an alt, then they aren't broken". I'm not targeting anyone though, I just wish to genuinely know if they would rather have the discussion of whether or not it is possible to not need to depend on alts for anything at all. Maybe fixing some of the issues brought by the use of alts (like many people where complaining about in relation to using alts to defeat catapults in the new world thread).
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby waga » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:47 am

if you're semi serious about the game you need a few alts yes.
It's unfortunate but devs don't care.
They used to pretend they wished for an alt free game but every patches push in the alt direction. (credos , hunger , retardo-wounds to name a few)
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby MadNomad » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:05 am

of course, you cannot do anything without alts, except maybe make a sprucecap or find a berry

so if you don't want to be an awful player like 5 accounts for specialised characters would be an optimal choice (this is a must have for any haven player who respects themselves)
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:53 am

You can play the whole game without an alt. It's very taxing because some parts of the game are very demanding on health and energy. It's better if you specialize at least a little so you can focus stats better.

I'd go two characters. One focused on farming and crafting around DEX, PSY, and Lore. The other I'd go focused on STR, CON, and AGI. Focus on mining, hunting, and such things.
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby Ants » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:08 am

The devs don't know how to dissuade people from using alts or bots. This game is run by two swedish guys, not a big company.

Using alts gives you big advantages. There's battle alts,trade alts, crime alts, claim alts, credo alts, terraforming alts, etcetera. If you're gonna hermit you'll probably need at least one alt so you can both farm and mine efficiently. And definitely don't get rage on your main character, that's a skill only crime alts should have. It makes you die more easily.

Last world I had an alt running a village on one side of the world while my main lived in a village on the other side. By using charter stones I could teleport back and forth, it was super useful.
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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby Agame » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:12 am

MagicManICT wrote:You can play the whole game without an alt. It's very taxing because some parts of the game are very demanding on health and energy. It's better if you specialize at least a little so you can focus stats better.

I'd go two characters. One focused on farming and crafting around DEX, PSY, and Lore. The other I'd go focused on STR, CON, and AGI. Focus on mining, hunting, and such things.


And loss of health and energy can make you eat more, which is not a very bad thing.

If you have plenty of curios, materials to gear up 2 characters etc, then why not. Remember each account needs to be verified and subscribed if you need some inventory space on it when you decide if your alt should be on the same account or a new account. Your money, your call.

But to get materials, food, curios, first you need a well geared main who knows how to do things. I mean who has DEX, Lore, STR, CON, AGI and do not forget PER and Charisma, especially at the beginning. After you do have it and things are going well for you, you can choose to focus on that main or make an alt, (starting with all at 10) and develop 2 characters in the same playing time you needed to develop one. Most people would use every idle second to do quests with their main. But if you are not interested in quests or in gathering materials for building something, then you could choose to dedicate that time to an alt.

If you decide to bot some aspects of the game for taking some boring tasks out of your real play time, then you must make alts for that, gear, gild and develop them for their specific task. If no tasks bore you to death, then you could play the game as it is, without botting.

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Re: To alt or not to alt?

Postby Hrenli » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:24 am

Playing since w9 without "pure alts". Just several slightly specialized characters. Usually start with two and later in the game might add more. I don't find multiboxing fun, so keep it simple on single account.

I think people already mentioned all or at least most of the reasons for multiple characters. I think the most serious are labor+hunger situation and credos. The rest (including rage/no rage decision) you could do without multiple characters.
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