Prolly the best way is to agree on using http for linking in here ...
The reason i made this thread is this:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=64226
https! https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vi ... 51&t=64226
more about the issue
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=63155&p=802351
https! https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vi ... 5&p=802351
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=58555&p=749963
https! https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vi ... 5&p=749963
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=54661
https! https://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vi ... 47&t=54661
btw. nobody bothered to play legacy back then with a self signed cert by loftar for Java
