Sticky post clean up (or additons)

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Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:49 am

Several of the sub forums have had some of the sticky posts or collections of links get a bit stale. I know that's on me to curate better, but until a new world comes around with changes and questions, new players and old vets returning, it can be hard to realize which have gone bad and which are still relevant.

If anyone has any suggestions or comments, toss them up.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby ricky » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:17 am

C/I
P2P plan - we've had this plan for like 4 years now, it works, people like it.
top ten ideas (probably just needs updated)
Bugs
Hearth Vault - theyve been restored
cant talk for the rest of the bugs stickies, cant tell if theyve been resolved
HDI
java 8 - arent we on like java 10 now?
tips needs cleaned unstickied; lots of stuff has changed
controls now that controls are in-game menu, this sticky probably isnt needed anymore, plus some of it might have changed
GLoSQ might not be a bad idea to make a new one as when people ctrl f the thread they find answers that arent W13 applicable
guide list lots of these arent applicable anymore (combat guides, quality guides, food guides)
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:58 am

Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely take it into consideration.

As far as the listing of guides, a few people have messaged me or posted publicly that they'll do their best to update the guide to current mechanics.

As far as the pro-tips thread, I agree it needs cleaned up or restarted.

Considering the GLoSQ... feels like a bit of a failed experiment to me. Still a lot of repeated questions. If other think it helpful, it might not be a terrible idea to restart it. Still a lot of the same basic information and not as much has changed over the last world or two as has remained consistent.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby mulamishne » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:41 am

I think it's pretty safe to remove the list of things not added from HnH:1. It's been years, if it's not integrated yet it probably won't be.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby MagicManICT » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:11 am

mulamishne wrote:I think it's pretty safe to remove the list of things not added from HnH:1. It's been years, if it's not integrated yet it probably won't be.

That's jorb's thread. I'm not touching it. Not much actually remains left that existed in w7.... though he might have forgotten about it. Most of that stuff was pulled by w3.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby ricky » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:22 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Considering the GLoSQ... feels like a bit of a failed experiment to me. Still a lot of repeated questions. If other think it helpful, it might not be a terrible idea to restart it. Still a lot of the same basic information and not as much has changed over the last world or two as has remained consistent.


As far as I can tell there's two ways to look at it:
1)HDI is a place for people to ask one line questions, thus there's no point in having the GLoSQ, as it acts as a sub-subforum
2)GLoSQ keeps players from making 100s of one line question threads in HDI, allowing more "complicated" questions or relatively more important threads such as guides to stay on the front page longer.

If you align more with 1, GLoSQ is redundant, if you agree with 2, it's a good (and popular) thread to keep HDI clean
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby vatas » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:44 pm

ricky wrote:java 8 - arent we on like java 10 now?


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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby Archiplex » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:36 pm

I'll go down each subforum for this.

viewforum.php?f=39
Game Development - Most Recent Patch: Should always be stickied, I like this.
Plea for Moderation - I don't mind this being stickied, but I also feel like it's active enough that it doesn't need to be stickied, either.
Legacy Haven - Should unsticky.
Game Development World(Now): Doesn't really need to stay stickied? Not much good conversation to be had other than about the current patch, and most other criticism should go to C/I
Boats of Skye: Unsticky create and entire new forum for it

viewforum.php?f=40
Thingwalls Explained - Good to sticky... for now. I definitely think it can be unstickied after some time, and further conversation to be in C/I
Screenshots: Yeah sure.
Sticky Post clean Up: as soon as you finish, unsticky.
Status Thread: Yeah, sure.
Happy Birthday: I might be a grouch but I don't really think this needs a sticky.
Wipe Discussion: Also doesn't need a sticky.
PaidToSupport: As above. These 'megathreads' don't need to be stickied.
Aesthetics/Serene Thread: Likewise, don't really need to be stickied.
For the above 4 threads, you can just have a single "Megathread links" thread stickied, for topics we don't want new threads about.
Developer thoughts on PVP: Also unsticky; I think jorbtar's stance on pvp is clear and it doesn't need to stay at the top all the time, especially since it hasn't had meaningful discussion for years. We could also just add "Developer Stances" to the megathread link to link to big posts like this, too.

viewforum.php?f=42
Grand List of Simple Questions: I think this should stay as a sticky, even though it's less of a list and more of a "ask small questions here" thread. Useful, cleans up the forum.
Wiki: Yeah, keep it.
Tips threads: So much of this is outdated and not useful anymore it doesn''t deserve to stay; dare i say, it didn't need to be a sticky to begin with. The "guides" announcement post is much better.
NEw controls: Doesn't need to stay; questions like this can go into the grand list thread.
Java 8 download: yeah... unsticky this.

viewforum.php?f=47
Offseason credos: This is still an issue and i can see it fine as being a sticky if loftar actively checks it; otherwise, not much of a point.
Literally every other sticky: Compile all of these threads into a "common bugs and issues thread (read me or die)" megathread. People don't read the stickies as-is as can plainly be seen, so just compile em all.

viewforum.php?f=48
Things not implemented: Not needed anymore since 90% of things have been implemented, and this was mostly a concern early on in development; most of what we see now is brand new original content. Didn't really need to be a sticky anyways.
Top 10 ideas: This should stay, but move away from the "top 10" and just list more things. You know what i'm talking about, magicboy.
P2P plan: Pretty sure the current monetization schematic has worked well for J&L and it's here to stay, so this sticky seems moot. This was a big thing back when we had the silly system of limited playtime.

viewforum.php?f=49
World map 1&2, population tracker: Merge into a "Actively developed projects" link, including active clients, world maps, and so forth.
Client source code: Can probably also go into the above thread, but isn't that bad as a sticky.
Regarding custom clients: I feel like this sticky should have more attention, renamed to "A warning about custom clients". Either ways, keep as a sticky.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:21 am

Just as an update, I've discussed a couple of the sticky threads with jorb or loftar, and for the most part, they're making the official decision they stay in place for now. I'm still slowly going over the threads in HDI and Bugs.
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Re: Sticky post clean up (or additons)

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:12 am

I'm going to keep thinking on what can be trimmed and try to keep the stickies managed a bit more, but at this time, I've knocked off as many as I can. Still open to suggestions on the matter, but I can't promise I'll agree or that jorb and loftar will.
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