Hermit legends says:"Give me something has range 120% and...

[salaman]

I will bring you whole forest!"

That legend seems true. If you stay on a right spot you can hunt every animal without higher stats or well gears. Hope you enjoy with video!

https://youtu.be/aXEUmiN4P6k

[chrisrock]

bear cape and chill bro

[Agrik]

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Looks like something is wrong with animal AI. First, the animal can't reach the attacker, but continues to stand there even when taking damage. Second, the animal readily attempts to attack when re-agroed, disregarding that it is damaged to the point of fleeing and that it can't find a way to reach the target.

[Reiber]

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Looks like something is wrong with animal AI. First, the animal can't reach the attacker, but continues to stand there even when taking damage. Second, the animal readily attempts to attack when re-agroed, disregarding that it is damaged to the point of fleeing and that it can't find a way to reach the target.

thats not an problem with ai, the game just looks at the grid,
tecnically you stand on an reachable spot, just barely out of range, if 100%range.
it is more difficult to reaggro with boarspears,

but most animals still run, if they cant get off an nondefencive move and get above 50 damage through armour, even if you cheese it right, bears in enrage are just more easy too cheese,

also in the video, the bear isnt reaggrod while it cant reach the player, loosing access too the player dosnt trigger"fleeingmode" either,

[Agrik]

thats not an problem with ai, the game just looks at the grid,
tecnically you stand on an reachable spot, just barely out of range, if 100%range.

There is no such excuse as "barely" in programming. Either something is "in range", which means the animal is able to deliver attacks, or it is "out of range", the animal is unable to attack and should notice this fact. Being "out of range" for the purpose of attacking but not counting as "out of range" for the purpose of general AI behavior would be plainly a programming mistake, leading to "broken" unrealistic AI behavior.

it is more difficult to reaggro with boarspears,

but most animals still run, if they cant get off an nondefencive move and get above 50 damage through armour, even if you cheese it right, bears in enrage are just more easy too cheese,

Sorry, I don't quite understand this phrase, especially the "cant get off an nondefencive move" part.

also in the video, the bear isnt reaggrod while it cant reach the player, loosing access too the player dosnt trigger"fleeingmode" either,

For me it looks like around 0:36 it was reaggroed by unreachable player. The same with moose around 1:34-1:42, I've counted 7 returns. And even if we put the question of (un)reachability aside, both animals were already wounded to the point of fleeing.

[Reiber]

it is more difficult to reaggro with boarspears,

but most animals still run, if they cant get off an nondefencive move and get above 50 damage through armour, even if you cheese it right, bears in enrage are just more easy too cheese,

Sorry, I don't quite understand this phrase, especially the "cant get off an nondefencive move" part.

animals nowdays occasionally reduce there openings even if they cant reach their opponent, if they get too high, aside from the "enemy is on reachable square" condition there is an "have i been able too hit enemy? " condition, wich is why even correctly cheesed animal flee,

also in the video, the bear isnt reaggrod while it cant reach the player, loosing access too the player dosnt trigger"fleeingmode" either,

For me it looks like around 0:36 it was reaggroed by unreachable player. The same with moose around 1:34-1:42, I've counted 7 returns. And even if we put the question of (un)reachability aside, both animals were already wounded to the point of fleeing.[/quote]

the only animal where i have percieved and hard fleeing mode are lynxes, everything else will just return on reaggro, no matter if they have 100 or 2 hp left, as long as the player is on an reachable square, only fleeing again after the next direct damage they get that is over an specific threshold ,

[Archiplex]

lol w8 hunting is back

[Agrik]

animals nowdays occasionally reduce there openings even if they cant reach their opponent, if they get too high,

Well, it looks reasonable that they don't need to reach the opponent to reduce their openings.

aside from the "enemy is on reachable square" condition there is an "have i been able too hit enemy? " condition, wich is why even correctly cheesed animal flee,

That's good. Unfortunately, it doesn't look (in the video) like animals make much use of the second condition check.

everything else will just return on reaggro, no matter if they have 100 or 2 hp left, as long as the player is on an reachable square, only fleeing again after the next direct damage they get that is over an specific threshold ,

And this sounds broken. Like, why should an animal that has already been beaten half to death, check whether it will receive even more damage?

[Reiber]

everything else will just return on reaggro, no matter if they have 100 or 2 hp left, as long as the player is on an reachable square, only fleeing again after the next direct damage they get that is over an specific threshold ,

And this sounds broken. Like, why should an animal that has already been beaten half to death, check whether it will receive even more damage?[/quote]

well from an rl logic standfpoint it dosnt, from an coding point, its just an reset and revert to normal beaviour when in new combat,
and from an gameplay reason, because it is the only way you can hunt an animal without an horse, or it being on shallow water and you having an boat,
in haven animals dont get wounded, and stumble through the thick woods, they just take off, bouncing of of cliffs, and dissapearing intoo the void as soon as they are fatrther than an few meters away,
real life animals dont run with unhindered speed intoo the nothingness untill they despawn in rl either,

[Agrik]

well from an rl logic standfpoint it dosnt, from an coding point, its just an reset and revert to normal beaviour when in new combat,

IMO, coding isn't supposed to be done for the sake of coding. It usually takes something real as a starting point, and then modifies, simplifies it to the desired degree. So, any feature is a mix only of a reality and intended modifications. And these modifications can be questioned. Well, there can also be bugs, but they are simply a thing that's supposed to be fixed.

This way it's not a question of "coding point", it's a question of why exactly this way of simplification was chosen (given all the other game design is also in dev's hands).

and from an gameplay reason, because it is the only way you can hunt an animal without an horse, or it being on shallow water and you having an boat,

Animals can run slower, can get tired faster (human is known to be endurance hunter), or can bleed away relatively fast, there can be different realistic options one can think of. I see no need to resort to totally unrealistic behavior that would create broken gameplay situations...

in haven animals dont get wounded, and stumble through the thick woods, they just take off, bouncing of of cliffs, and dissapearing intoo the void as soon as they are fatrther than an few meters away,

Yep. And all these things can be revised if needed.