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Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby loftar » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:42 pm

I'm considering (no decision having been made yet) whether it might be time to upgrade the server hardware. The SSDs in the current server have always been a bit flaky performance-wise, and a newer CPU probably wouldn't hurt anything either. I will admit the prospect of having to let the server sleep for an unknown amount of time unnerves me a bit, but it might be time.

Getting a new server from Hetzner these days, however, leaves me the choice of choosing between their German or Finnish datacenters. The Finnish datacenter is cheaper, but nowhere near by an amount that would cause me to choose it for that reason. Much more than that, I'm concerned about the ping times for people from various parts of the world. I don't have any data to go off to determine whether the Finnish datacenter would be better or worse than the German datacenter. Is there anyone who has experience with Hetzner who might know anything about this?

If you want to try the latencies yourselves, Hetzner apparently has ping test servers at fsn.icmp.hetzner.com for the German datacenter, and hel.icmp.hetzner.com for the Finnish one. For me, being in Sweden, the Finnish datacenter is significantly better at 8 ms vs. 26 for Germany, but I'd be curious to see if there's a significant difference (either way) for other people.

If no obvious advantage can be seen for the Finnish datacenter, I'd be inclined to choose the German datacenter just to not change anything unexpectedly for anyone, but feel free to opine.
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby SnuggleSnail » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:42 pm

Australia pls
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby Clemins » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:44 pm

Why not, but

Whichever is better for the US East and make the lag go bye bye plz ty godbless
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby loftar » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:45 pm

Clemins wrote:Whichever is better for the US East

Well, the reason I'm asking is that I don't know which is better for US Ease, or for any other location except my own. Please feel entirely free to provide your own ping data according to OP.
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby Clemins » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:47 pm

loftar wrote:
Clemins wrote:Whichever is better for the US East

Well, the reason I'm asking is that I don't know which is better for US Ease, or for any other location except my own. Please feel entirely free to provide your own ping data according to OP.


Pinged them both, they're both 135ms, so either ;)
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby strpk0 » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:48 pm

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PING hel.icmp.hetzner.com(2a01:4f9:0:a010::20 (2a01:4f9:0:a010::20)) 56 data bytes
From 2607:f130:0:ee:216:3cff:fe42:754c (2607:f130:0:ee:216:3cff:fe42:754c) icmp_seq=9 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby Audiosmurf » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:58 pm

From Eastern Canada, the Finland one is consistently about 10ms quicker.
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby gravesmerch » Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:00 am

from South America (lol)
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--- fsn.icmp.hetzner.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9012ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 229.256/230.887/235.866/1.833 ms

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--- hel.icmp.hetzner.com ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 228.511/235.549/248.861/5.155 ms

Germany seems more stable, but maybe is just a coincidence
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby Fostik » Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:38 am

finns deserve something good in their lifes though
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Re: Germany or Finland for servers?

Postby loftar » Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:42 am

strpk0 wrote:Destination unreachable: Address unreachable

Isn't that just you having some sort of IPv6 trouble? Isn't it the same over IPv6 for the German address?
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