Cave ins on cave surface tiles?

[banok]

I really thought the surface tiles of caves could not cause cave ins, thats how I remember it being. And I mean how else are you supposed to get starting mining since supports require metal.

And yet I have had 2 cave ins on surface tiles out of only like 8 tiles mined. Am I doing something wrong? Cause the wounds whilst not too hard to deal with are demotivating to play.

[Audiosmurf]

Not doing anything wrong, you were just incorrect about those tiles causing cave-ins. They always have, you just got lucky before.

how else are you supposed to get starting mining since supports require metal.

Prospecting or accepting that you might take some wounds as the price of finding metal. It doesn't have to be risk-free or easy.

[Procne]

the outer tiles always had a risk of causing cave ins. That's something you simply have to deal with.

[banok]

well shiiit, my memory is bad I guess. I do think it would make sense if this was changed so you can mine safe until you see dust. I just wanna play minesweeper, but in the game minesweeper you start with clear tiles, it would be 0 fun without that dont ya think?

edit: it occurred to me that maybe you dont always start with clear spot in minesweeper but it has been 15+ years.

[VDZ]

Prospecting or accepting that you might take some wounds as the price of finding metal. It doesn't have to be risk-free or easy.

i.e. abuse an alt to take the concussions for you until you've found a proper spot.

[meus]

The only safe way to start is a mine hole, it is considered a mine support.

[Bolillo]

The only safe way to start is a mine hole, it is considered a mine support.

This. Anything else is a "mine at your own risk".

[MagicManICT]

Look for the natural mine supports, too. Just remember the Venn diagram of "naturally occurring" of A and "naturally occurring" of B never intersects in video games.