AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Ask, answer and discuss any and all topics about the hows, whys, wheres and whens of playing Haven & Hearth.

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby Austinh15 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:35 pm

Austinh15 wrote:
joojoo1975 wrote:
Austinh15 wrote:There's a role in discord for joining whatever bay in w16 in their discord. Whenever I engage with someone I verify where they're from because my words get twisted all the time.
Also I will always say fuck Misa any chance I get. I am still VERY disappointed in him being allowed in Whatever Bay. I know my opinion doesn't matter at all to them but I was being incredibly earnest with you when we talked in discord. That one comes from the heart ;)


Oh, are you saying you have a char in the WB discord? Spy :D

Since you feel this strongly, have you ever talked to him in voice, just 1 on 1, and see how much this all really is. you do understand his first language is not english. But that may be too much for you(not sarcastic, being honest)


I get that, but he doubled down HARD in the forums. So much so that English barrier was thrown at the window. Also the spy is me(I should clarify I'm in the "public" portion of that discord). I'm in the discord LOL. I don't use alts (unless it was the whatever bay eagle but that was a one off haha joke).


Fuck I hit quote instead of edit it's so over MODS DELETE THIS MY REPUTATION
Last edited by Austinh15 on Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Austinh15
 
Posts: 306
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:45 pm

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:35 pm

Vert wrote:Why don't other people have such problems? Why did this become a problem for your group of people.

Every group of decent size built claims on caves.

Because you want to spend time attacking other players and you don't have enough time to attack and defend and therefore you want excellent defense without wasting time on it, you don't want to divide players into groups.

I cannot defend my base while I am asleep.

Increasing the cost of rage and vandalism even by 1.5-2 times will significantly weaken early aggression. It is worth forgetting that subscription and verification allow you to gain the required amount of experience 2 times faster. So in fact, the cost of rage should have been increased from 30,000 to 60,000 when the subscription and verification were introduced

Making rage 60k will make it take 5ish hours instead of 2ish. Just extends the time alts can grief claim stakes by a few hours. 100k LP for vandal isn't enough to guarantee leather gets done before.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
DDDsDD999
 
Posts: 5669
Joined: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:31 am

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby Kaios » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:39 pm

lol i put a lock on a stick gate and it works just fine
User avatar
Kaios
 
Posts: 9171
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:14 am

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby Vert » Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:55 pm

DDDsDD999 wrote:Every group of decent size built claims on caves.

Some group dont do it

DDDsDD999 wrote:I cannot defend my base while I am asleep.

We can say same about cave claim, but for some reason if the cave claim remains in the game you are ready to go to sleep. I think it's because it is a very strong defense.
it seems to me that if you attack in the area you should be ready to get a counterattack.
in my opinion it would be more honest if the game did not have an ultimate defense.


if cave claim is removed I will just use a house with a claim or even two houses with a claim and something tells me that the attackers will not be happy to break 7000 hp for 1 damage. They will not even have the opportunity to determine which house to attack. It is almost the same as cave claim, just a little weaker. It can be destroyed and it takes time to build. And you know this very well, but it seems you are too lazy to even build a house.

maybe I am wrong about something?
Vert
 
Posts: 250
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:59 am

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby overtyped » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:28 pm

DDDsDD999 wrote:Every group of decent size built claims on caves.

Quit capping lmao. This is how you keep tricking the old man. WB must be a small village, because me and robbin didn't know about this. Not even last world.
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
User avatar
overtyped
 
Posts: 3906
Joined: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:09 am
Location: Quaran book burning festival

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby Robben_DuMarsch » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:29 pm

Kaios wrote:lol i put a lock on a stick gate and it works just fine


"Think of the spruces! Game is unplayable!"
- Proposing something that virtually no spruces do, that has the primary purpose of letting them prey on spruces without anyone being able to kill them back. :oops:
User avatar
Robben_DuMarsch
 
Posts: 2312
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:58 am

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby DonVelD » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:32 pm

I actually learned about this move from... hermits. :|

W13 to be exact.

I get that it's convenient to use a strawman for you because you don't like the mechanic, but why the disingenuity.
      Image
      Image
JOIN THE OFFICIAL H&H DISCORD TODAY
User avatar
DonVelD
 
Posts: 1863
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:37 pm
Location: @ your fenced base W/ a boar

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:34 pm

emerging technology the sprucecaps cannot comprehend
Image
"We specialize in permadeath and forum drama." -man who removed death and deletes every drama thread
http://www.seatribe.se/
User avatar
SnuggleSnail
 
Posts: 2994
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:04 pm

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby Kaios » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:43 pm

straw hat fallacy
User avatar
Kaios
 
Posts: 9171
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:14 am

Re: AMAZING EXPLOIT: How to be unraidable on day 1

Postby SnuggleSnail » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:46 pm

Eh, I personally don't care about the cave thing enough either way to make a big argument.

I do think it's a bit strange how ppl treat hermits like children, though. This is a pretty simple thing half the game already uses. I don't understand why people are being weird about this being unintuitive or unfair to nabs. Have you seen the rest of the game?
"We specialize in permadeath and forum drama." -man who removed death and deletes every drama thread
http://www.seatribe.se/
User avatar
SnuggleSnail
 
Posts: 2994
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:04 pm

PreviousNext

Return to How do I?

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Claude [Bot], Red_Spark and 1 guest