Palibashed BW - I'm out. QQs and ragequits inside.

[APXEOLOG]

it probably doesn't take months to build your sandcastle/ character only for it to be knocked out in a few minutes... so to do it in Haven requires even more lack of empathy

Please explain me one thing. If you love your sandcastle so much, why don't you invest some time into defenses? In real life people use additional security, strongboxes and all those stuff to protect what they love. It is obvious.

[Clansman]

blah blah blah emphaty blah blah

You must really believe that no-one remembers the World 2 if you keep talking about empathy and 'hurting others'.

[barra]

If you don't like to kill people in video games, you can choose one of many games without PvP. It's your choice, but our choice is not to listen your bullshit in PvP-oriented games.

Did I say that? I said it was not the goal of DayZ, which it isn't. Words of the lead dev, DayZ is designed to trigger emotional experiences and stories. Playing as a deathmatch is counterproductive. Killing in DayZ is supposed to make you feel bad. Playing exclusively to kill while trying to avoid those feels is ass-backwards.

Lol, next time I walk up to someone on the airfield I'll ask them if they want to join my circle jerk instead. Maybe I'll give them a magazine too.

Maybe you should try that. You might find it more fun than putting a magazine into them.

But I don't get, why is it okay to murder randoms as a sniper? Talk about the least amount of interaction possible. All they receive is an instant "You are dead" black screen. You can make up all the little rules you want, but don't expect me to follow your arbitrary rules of conduct missie.

When I still played DayZ, my friends and I moved in groups of two or three. A sniper is overwatch so we can have those interesting interactions (holdups, arrests, executions, larpy shit etc) without being interrupted. A lot of that involves finding other snipers and trying to predict where people are and what their intentions are, which is hard.

[lachlaan]

If nothing else, this thread and others like it might give devs a clearer image of the current raiding system for comparison with whatever new thing they do choose to implement. They need only judge elements of each raid and like JC seems to be doing on ye other end of the pond, ponder how long it should take to raid, ti be raid ready, what numbers should be viable, what to do with the less viable small towns or hermits, and so on. Fingers crossed it won't suck and leave us stuck with a bad system for another world or two

Also to people suggesting moving so far that you're essentially playing single player, or suggesting that he build a brick wall when that was the very thing that got so many raided, really consider how a) boring moving far is, as everyone is crying dead world and no interaction and b) how antithetic it is to say build a wall only to draw raider attention to yourself. I've no idea how many scouting bots big raiders are running but I presume a lot to hit people within a day of bwall ready or less.

[APXEOLOG]

I've no idea how many scouting bots big raiders are running but I presume a lot to hit people within a day of bwall ready or less.

10/10 idea, thx

[burgingham]

blah blah blah emphaty blah blah

You must really believe that no-one remembers the World 2 if you keep talking about empathy and 'hurting others'.

Oh hi mysterious alt! How about you post on your main?

In world 2 I was playing my first online game ever and yes I made mistakes there, because I didn't really think about empathy and the like back then. That is why I chose to play differently afterwards. Makes sense right? Also am I not allowed to voice my opinion anymore because I did something wrong once?

Btw I found some scientific essays on the topic actually. It seems at the very least there is a correlation between real life bullying and similar behavior in game. So people who tend to act like that in real life do so more often in games too and funny enough victims in online games become bullies more often in the real world as well or vice versa. Will try and read more about it, I find this an exciting topic.

@Apxeolog: Your complete inability to understand the word empathy (and yes it is you who needs to check the dictionary, if you think empathy only applies to those in need) shows indeed that you have none. Empathy simply means to put yourself in the shoes of someone else and their mindset too (not yours applied to someone else!). There is no arguing with you though. You live in your own bubble and nobody else counts and that is fine. Just don't act like you actually contribute anything to the topic at hand. You make this a PvP oriented game. It is not that by default. It is your own choice to not even think about the person sitting at the other computer and their time and effort.

And I agree with Avu. Visitor buff was a first step, if this game is supposed to be friendly to new players we need a lot more like that where people cannot just grief and cause people to quit whenever they want to. Only being able to declare PvP is another thing Jorb seems to like and that can be the right way. No more random attacking someone just because, but only on an even playing field and with a good reason.

[GustawoVegas]

Muh feelings are hurt! Somebody DARES to think differently! Quick somebody! Call the thought police!

[FerrousToast]

and funny enough victims in online games become bullies more often in the real world as well or vice versa.

Such a pathetic bullshit excuse. Just a flag for bullies to run around going not my fault, I'm the victim. Just like fat people.

[burgingham]

That is not something made up by bullies, but by a psychological study (follow the link I posted and you can also download the entire thing at booksc.org). I am not saying I have no doubts about their results, but your argument seems to miss the point. I do agree with you that it is no excuse to bully other people, but what does that have to do with anything?

Muh feelings are hurt! Somebody DARES to think differently! Quick somebody! Call the thought police!

So basically you tell people who discuss here with arguments and everything (which is very much the expression of the opposite of something controlled by a thought police) to shut up because they hurt your feelings? Seems a little paradox if you ask me

[Clansman]

Oh hi mysterious alt! How about you post on your main?

Pretty sure its my main.

That is why I chose to play differently afterwards.

When exactly? I'm afraid I haven't noticed.