Study Desk Ignores Experience needed.

[Ysh]

After it is fix, you can gain no LP until EXP debt is pay off. This seems like large drawback.

Again im gonna guess they wont care when they can pop an alt use a realm to give it XP and use them for hearth magic since besides LP thats all you need XP for.

And being unable to get LP seems bad to me.

[cyrus9586]

Well once fixed yes but if its a big enough realm doing this then they just draw XP from their Cairn to get back from negative.

[Ysh]

Well once fixed yes but if its a big enough realm doing this then they just draw XP from their Cairn to get back from negative.

But they can already do this, yes? I guess to abuse this by create many alt that only need certain amount of LP and then gain no LP every again it is real problem, like I think what Granger suggest. But for somebody who will want to gain LP, they still need to spend EXP one way or another. It is just like cash advance.

[MadNomad]

J&L might wanna quickly check any players in the negatives, and anyone lower then -100k might need a nuke

do you know how long would it take to reach this point? do you know when was the update? noone reached this point yet, it should be -1K and lower instead because its already enough to see someone tried and didnt report

[MrPunchers]

J&L might wanna quickly check any players in the negatives, and anyone lower then -100k might need a nuke

do you know how long would it take to reach this point? do you know when was the update? noone reached this point yet, it should be -1K and lower instead because its already enough to see someone tried and didnt report

Well Mirks could run you under big, and Ivories, Pearls, Seals...

[cyrus9586]

yea I got to over -2k in under one night cause i loaded up on the mirks we had since they were changed and logged out for a while. 20 mirks is 2k right there and only 40 hours. So if you think about it since the patch almost 20 days ago easily people can be over 100k in debt

[MadNomad]

well it must be mirkwoods then because even tho ivory and seals cost a decent amount of exp it still doesnt drain as much as much as mirks because of the study time (i use em regularly and i still have decent amount of exp even tho i dont really collect much exp) , but for real, not everyone uses that many mirkwoods and maybe -1K was too high but for sure shouldnt be lower than -3K

tommorow ill have around 500(like 300 of em from figurines and seals) exp less because i use em, it doesnt drain as much
so i would reach -100K from 0 after half of a year if i dont use mirks and replace all other curios regularly
and mirkwood is additional -1200 a day so indeed a lot more but still noone reached even -30K yet even if he knew about it from the beggining

[cyrus9586]

Most of the quick LP gainers are 5-100 XP each. With a high enough INT you can easily be burning 1000 XP per day.
River Pearl 1 hour 10 XP= 24 per day= 240 XP
Mirkwood Offering 100 XP =12 per day= 1200 XP
Seers bones 5 XP= 12 per day= 60 XP
Fether Tinkete 6 XP= 12 per day= 72 XP
Bat wing 40 XP= 6 per day= 240 XP
Glimmer moss 25 XP= 4(almost 5) per day= 100 XP
Seers Bowl 18 XP=3 per day= 54 XP per day
Ivory Figure 100 XP= 2 per day=200 XP
All that is 2166 per day and there would still be room. Now with the bug you dont need to load a desk with a bunch of each one just add one before you finish the previous so make a bot to add them. Up date was the 9th lets say someone found it on the 10th that's 17 days of abuse for 36,822 XP right there and again there is still a 1x3/3x1 spot open and not counting things like the glimmer that go by uneven hours.

Now the thing your missing is I am not calling this out for the little person who might be abusing an endless mirkwood addiction. Big villages who have access to 100s of each of these would be chaining alts or mains for this to get massive LP in little time without the XP costs. So we would need to look for people who have -10,000 to -50,000 XP to see who has been abusing this bug and maybe more if they have been using crappy high XP costs curios.

Edit: Let's also remember abusers will more then likely not be gaining XP as they abuse. So All that XP you said you gained remember to Ignore that as people abusing this more then likely will be doing No questing and triggering little to no XP events. I think that's whats tripping up your number so much.

[Kaios]

loftar shut the server down yesterday to do a bug fix for this, not sure if anyone has confirmed whether or not it's still happening

[cyrus9586]

I was still at negative so once I get back up I can test it again and see what happens.