Antiwall exploit

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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby Kaios » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:58 pm

APXEOLOG wrote:Yes, it is as funny as eating shit. But:
1. Now it is possible to break the walls at least
2. If we will not siege and report how the system works it will not become better


Then report properly and don't just say "but the multi walls!!!!!!111" when you're clearly getting stopped by the opposition especially when you just try to raid with disposable alts.
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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby Jesterz » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:27 pm

I believe the disposable alt is a thing for everyone who is raiding. No point having a main sit around for 12 hours and half ass pay attention.
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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby Kaios » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:57 pm

Jesterz wrote:I believe the disposable alt is a thing for everyone who is raiding. No point having a main sit around for 12 hours and half ass pay attention.


You're right, many people do use alts for this type of work and that's why I don't think it is very fair even if they were to break in that they should be able to loot and destroy as they please but that is a different conversation. The players defending in this scenario are mostly using mains though as far as I know.

However, when I see some bullshit characters like apx_bot_49 and apx_bot_50 I am more than happy to see the developers make additions such as the requirements to use a catapult because while this still means it is likely players will use alts for sieging at least these alts require some amount of investment before you can use them. Or they can just use their mains.
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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby ravenguard19 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:26 pm

Kaios wrote:
Jesterz wrote:I believe the disposable alt is a thing for everyone who is raiding. No point having a main sit around for 12 hours and half ass pay attention.


You're right, many people do use alts for this type of work and that's why I don't think it is very fair even if they were to break in that they should be able to loot and destroy as they please but that is a different conversation. The players defending in this scenario are mostly using mains though as far as I know.

However, when I see some bullshit characters like apx_bot_49 and apx_bot_50 I am more than happy to see the developers make additions such as the requirements to use a catapult because while this still means it is likely players will use alts for sieging at least these alts require some amount of investment before you can use them. Or they can just use their mains.


Ekhem +2 feps, ekhem bonfire... It's a circle of nerfs and buffs, they can't get rid of disposable alts that way as the requirements are easy to achieve. The only workaround i see it's making some sort of character creation time requirement so your character have to be 1 week old at least. It sounds stupid but i can't think of a better way.
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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby Jesterz » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:06 pm

Kaios wrote:
Jesterz wrote:I believe the disposable alt is a thing for everyone who is raiding. No point having a main sit around for 12 hours and half ass pay attention.


You're right, many people do use alts for this type of work and that's why I don't think it is very fair even if they were to break in that they should be able to loot and destroy as they please but that is a different conversation. The players defending in this scenario are mostly using mains though as far as I know.

However, when I see some bullshit characters like apx_bot_49 and apx_bot_50 I am more than happy to see the developers make additions such as the requirements to use a catapult because while this still means it is likely players will use alts for sieging at least these alts require some amount of investment before you can use them. Or they can just use their mains.


With the addition of presentation names a lot of people name there characters some crazy bull shit. Why would you name your character something recognizable? Alt ### is a name for almost all my characters. That being said I am sure hits are an issue but about 10% of the issue they were in legacy. Look at that we have retailed the topic from Dis exploits -> scents suck to leave to defend -> presentation names are bad.
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Re: Antiwall exploit

Postby Kaios » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:22 pm

Jesterz wrote:With the addition of presentation names a lot of people name there characters some crazy bull shit. Why would you name your character something recognizable? Alt ### is a name for almost all my characters. That being said I am sure hits are an issue but about 10% of the issue they were in legacy. Look at that we have retailed the topic from Dis exploits -> scents suck to leave to defend -> presentation names are bad.


I will agree that the presentation name does allow a person to hide their identity or go crazy with their name but that wasn't really my point, players make tons of alts and they use them to avoid using their main for whatever reason yet they reap the same benefits as if they had actually risked something. If you're naming a character Alt #50 it's usually because you have already made Alt #49 and all the names before it.

As for naming yourself something recognizable, not everyone chooses to hide behind an alias. Sometimes a person finding out who you are can save your life or benefit you in some other way, sometimes it can kill you. It's a gamble but it's one that I personally don't mind risking.
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