Help! Claim is broken!

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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby Jayden254 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:02 pm

I was the poor unfortunate who lost the claim. i was jumped like 6 days ago and the person stole our metal and our linx cape. the person had rage and trespassing and probably theft. we fought but i didn't have any armor so i lost. he stole my hirdsman cape (which took forever to get btw). so i guess he stole my bond of blood and soil when that happened? :evil:
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:24 pm

apoc254 wrote:you are forgetting the part where we would be 3 weeks behind

You're already 3 weeks behind everyone if you had a claim that was so easily taken over.

This game isn't a competition. The only winners are the ones that stick around for the long haul and don't give up at the first hiccup in their plans. All the asshats in the world can come bashing in your door, but they just get bored and leave in a couple of months leaving the dedicated players behind to raid what they left.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby apoc254 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:33 pm

they took advantage of our ignorance of blood and soil usage.
I dont know if that counts as easily taken over... we literally could have lost any claim due to that. that problem is on us
If we knew that was a thing we would have just right clicked the claim pole and he would have gotten those few items before we were able to finish the wall.

we were q25 crops, q25 metal and struggling with finding a balance in cooked food so we dont get destroyed by the satiation system.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby apoc254 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:40 pm

bug claim still stands:

people can take your claimed land with no seige skills,
bash your hearth fire,
cause an entire village to spawn in the map randomly,
screwing credo quests with requirements to give something to a impossible to reach stump,
split up all alts created to different corners of the map.

thats too harsh to possibly be intended.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby Audiosmurf » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:45 pm

I would argue that poor understanding of mechanics and the consequences thereof are not a bug.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby linkfanpc » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:32 am

This is a real tragedy and i'd surely be as angry as you are if this happened to me, but i'm just going to be entirely blunt with this. Please don't take offense, i'm mostly on your side here.

people can take your claimed land with no seige skills,


That's fair, stupidity = loss. You should have researched more, (Or in this case, your friend should have.) this is all documented on the wiki. http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Personal_Claim

bash your hearth fire,


Bashing other's hearthfires on your "own" land is perfectly balanced, but...

cause an entire village to spawn in the map randomly,


I entirely agree, completely unacceptable. It should spawn you within a few mapgrids of your old HF's location.

screwing credo quests with requirements to give something to a impossible to reach stump,


That's an obscure but acceptable and balanced repercussion to the scenario. Quest List -> Abandon

split up all alts created to different corners of the map.


I'm against alts, so i don't care, :twisted: but in my unbiased opinion, same as #3.

Overall, this is indeed unfortunate and an easy mistake to make. I'm truly sorry and wish the best, and honestly if i could say one thing to you right now it would be, just forget it and re-group. Try your best to get back together with everyone. Risk everything. Go through whirlpools, doesn't matter. It's this or starting over, and even that is preferable to quitting entirely. Imo this world is gonna last a while, please don't abandon it. I swear on my life, it will get better if you just persevere. H&H is a cruel game, but determination will get you far.

Good luck to you.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby Hasta » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:58 am

MagicManICT wrote:This game isn't a competition. The only winners are the ones that stick around for the long haul and don't give up at the first hiccup in their plans. All the asshats in the world can come bashing in your door, but they just get bored and leave in a couple of months leaving the dedicated players behind to raid what they left.


One may argue, that the asshats won; in fact, they had so much winning, they got bored of winning. And left a ravaged, half-depleted and rotting corpse of a world behind. But, yeah, not a sprint, a marathon etc etc.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby Yorla » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:01 am

Call it a bug or game mechanics flaw. It still is. Just make the ankh stuck to KOed toon and let it only be taken from completely killed ones and tradable at will.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:24 am

Yorla wrote:Just make the ankh stuck to KOed toon and let it only be taken from completely killed ones and tradable at will.

Reasonable. The only people that are going to lose claims from getting a bond stolen are new players.
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Re: Help! Claim is broken!

Postby Vassteel » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:46 am

@apoc254 If ye 'n yer group intend t' keep on playin' 'n needs help meetin' back up. I could probably assist in helpin' ye by sailin' around 'n givin' ur folks a ride. If yer interested Shoot me a PM or somethin'.

Also thar be Plenty o' land here on th' isles if yer lookin' fer a new spot t' settle. I be also recruitin' if ye might be interested in that sort o' proposition.
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