Help! Claim is broken!

[vatas]

I have been in somewhat similar situation where I've been screwed over for not knowing how claims work. It was the good old "invite noob to party, loot all his valuables and bash the rest for good measure." It was arguably worse since warning about this wasn't added to wiki until after this happened, by me. It has since been effectively fixed with the "Toggle Party Permissions" or at least you also have to trick the noob to use said toggle, which should raise suspicion.

I would argue that poor understanding of mechanics and the consequences thereof are not a bug.

Agreed. However one could also argue that the bond and claim interface imply what you need to do, but they definitely don't do so in a clear (enough) way.

[kitsune121x]

there should be a warning built in the game teaching players about how somebody could take their claim like this even though it to me it's common sense but not everybody knows this shit there's a lot of new people in the game now

[loskierek]

you lads just lost a claim, what will u do when you lose semi developed character? if this makes you want to quit then are you sure its the game for you? + its not the games fault but the claim owners. You see a player you heart home unless you are confident you can win a fight. Server has been up for like a month now and if you had fk all in ur base and no palisade with multiple people then its really all on you. Either suck it up and group up or wait till the population of hafen quits due to deaths and come back when a sprucehat is not a punching bag anymore

[stya]

they took advantage of our ignorance of blood and soil usage.
I dont know if that counts as easily taken over... we literally could have lost any claim due to that. that problem is on us
If we knew that was a thing we would have just right clicked the claim pole and he would have gotten those few items before we were able to finish the wall.

we were q25 crops, q25 metal and struggling with finding a balance in cooked food so we dont get destroyed by the satiation system.

Start fresh, find better WWWs?

You were already 2 weeks late at least, being 3 won't be a big deal...

[apoc254]

Didnt care about the land lost, we were raided 3 times in this world before this. I cared about the method in which people can steal your land. Please rename" bond of blood and soil" to "deed" or something similar to alleviate confusion.

My characters are now bug exploiters and I can control where in the world I position my character.(get rekt jorb, I can teleport too!)
I can jump through your palisade.
I can dodge visitor debuff.
I can trap woodland creatures, flying or not by using exploits.
I haven't figured out how to dodge scents yet, but I have some ideas I am working on.
playing fair is off the table if this is how the game is meant to be played.
see you all in game.

Yeah, you never said a word
You didn't send me no letter
Don't think I could forgive you
See our world is slowly dying
I'm not wasting no more time
Don't think I could believe you
And see the children are starving
And their houses were destroyed
Don't think they could forgive you
Hey, when seas will cover lands
And when men will be no more
Don't think you can forgive you
Yeah when there'll just be silence
And when life will be over
Don't think you will forgive you

[loskierek]

good for you i guess? Hafen was always meant to be played like this, there was always something that could be exploited, like signs for hunting, tanning tubs in a cart, leantos by the pali and so on so forth. If you found an exploit then use it till it works mate

[linkfanpc]

Didnt care about the land lost, we were raided 3 times in this world before this. I cared about the method in which people can steal your land. Please rename" bond of blood and soil" to "deed" or something similar to alleviate confusion.

My characters are now bug exploiters and I can control where in the world I position my character.(get rekt jorb, I can teleport too!)
I can jump through your palisade.
I can dodge visitor debuff.
I can trap woodland creatures, flying or not by using exploits.
I haven't figured out how to dodge scents yet, but I have some ideas I am working on.
playing fair is off the table if this is how the game is meant to be played.
see you all in game.

Yeah, you never said a word
You didn't send me no letter
Don't think I could forgive you
See our world is slowly dying
I'm not wasting no more time
Don't think I could believe you
And see the children are starving
And their houses were destroyed
Don't think they could forgive you
Hey, when seas will cover lands
And when men will be no more
Don't think you can forgive you
Yeah when there'll just be silence
And when life will be over
Don't think you will forgive you

This is what i was afraid of.

My characters are now bug exploiters and I can control where in the world I position my character.(get rekt jorb, I can teleport too!)

No, you can't.

I can jump through your palisade.

Nope.

I can dodge visitor debuff.

No.

I can trap woodland creatures, flying

Never.

I haven't figured out how to dodge scents yet, but I have some ideas I am working on.

And no.

I understand you're angry but giving the devs a big f*** you and saying "Haha, i do what i want and you can't do anything about it!" despite the fact there are no holes or flaws in most of the systems your described (Especially the teleporting thing. What the heck are you actually talking about??) and they're devs and can fix the bugs and holes anyway.

Please, i encourage you to PM me or anyone (Preferably the devs.) evidence of any of these likely false claims. I swear on my word i won't let them out. If you don't do this, they are indeed all false.

[MagicManICT]

If you don't do this, they are indeed all false.

Apoc is one of the vets here. He knows, and they aren't all false. It's the kinds of issues we've had in the past.

Didnt care about the land lost, we were raided 3 times in this world before this. I cared about the method in which people can steal your land. Please rename" bond of blood and soil" to "deed" or something similar to alleviate confusion.

What does the name matter? You failed to keep apprised of the rules changes in Haven. You've been around long enough to know any break long enough leaves you uninformed about current mechanics. I'm sorry for your loss, I really am, but if all you're going to do is rant in the bugs forum, I feel I should ask you to stop.

My characters are now bug exploiters and I can control where in the world I position my character.(get rekt jorb, I can teleport too!)

Before you go acting on any of this, might I suggest reviewing some of the recent (ie since w8) actions that have been taken against those that have been found to willingly exploit bugs at the expense of others?

Hafen was always meant to be played like this, there was always something that could be exploited, like signs for hunting, tanning tubs in a cart, leantos by the pali and so on so forth. If you found an exploit then use it till it works mate

And you're one of the problem children. There's no "meant to be played like" at all. It's a two man dev team that can't fix bugs as fast as they're found. Get a clue, man.

[Audiosmurf]

that whole post

[Lojka]

you can meet again with friend by destroying you HF and blocking you position with alt

then check your coords in amber client, and repeat