3 full smelters yield 0 bars

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3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby tweinst » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:35 am

Okay, I know the probabilities, and it's very suspect when someone says the RNG hates them, or whatever. However, I just smelted 3 full loads of chalcopyrite in my 3 smelters. I have deep artifice, so I should have a 12% yield, but that's still an 88% chance of nothing per piece of ore, even if everything is working properly.

But 75 ore all getting nothing comes to a 0.007% chance.

I would be inclined to chalk it up to an extremely rare chance because I'm well aware that those can happen. However, this isn't the first time, and having it happen twice strikes me as very unusual.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby Granger » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:15 pm

Low yield ores should give nuggets or pebbles instead of smelter full of stones...
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby jorb » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:39 pm

Granger wrote:Low yield ores should give nuggets or pebbles instead of smelter full of stones...


Arguably. Will consider.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby tweinst » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:27 pm

If this is an actual bug, and not just the RNG hating me, it seems to happen when I'm away from camp for a long time while the smelters are running, and then come back after they've finished. So perhaps it could have something to do with saving out the inactive area, or loading it back in? In any case, it doesn't always happen and it's only ever happened twice to all 3 smelters at the same time.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby Burinn » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:38 pm

Git gud.


Deep Artifice changes the game. I don't think I've had a smelter with any less than four bars ever since I got it.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby tweinst » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:13 pm

I have deep artifice. lrn2read.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby Burinn » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:14 pm

tweinst wrote:I have deep artifice. lrn2read.


I don't think I said otherwise?
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby sabinati » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:37 pm

how then, should he git gud, exactly
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby Burinn » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:41 pm

sabinati wrote:how then, should he git gud, exactly


"Git gud" is just a saying. I'd recommend mining better ore or performing a sacrifice to RNGesus for better rolls.
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Re: 3 full smelters yield 0 bars

Postby tweinst » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:21 pm

Burinn wrote:I'd recommend mining better ore


The point of this report is that there may be a bug such that mining better ore doesn't help. If there's a problem with loading/unloading regions with active smelters, then the ore may not matter.

I will attempt to replicate it with cassiterite or magnetite, since the chance of a single smelter giving zero bars would be 0.01%, and for 3 full smelters would be 2.4x10^-12.
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