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Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small vessels

Postby Agrik » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:51 pm

A Deep Fried Bird requires not a frying pan or some open fire, but a boiling cauldron with water. Looks strange to me, though I'm no expert in cooking, isn't it will be boiled?

Maybe this is somehow connected with having two liquids in said recipe, so people want to hold 2 buckets and thus have no free hand for a pan, but if the such dish really supposes frying, it seems preferable to have a not very comfortable recipe over the wrong one.

P.S. Just checked. I can't pour Vinegar even in a Mug, let alone a Waterflask/-skin. Why? It seems possible to get Tar out of bucket and use it for Batter, or pour Wine in and out after storing Tanning fluid there, what's wrong with Vinegar in a flask or a Mug? Now I left some juice in them to see whether Vinegar can exist there at all...
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby Fostik » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:53 am

Not a bug, most recipes that should require being fried in deep fat fryer- uses cauldron for it.
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby Agrik » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:57 pm

Well, I suppose one can fry in a cauldron, but not with water. We have Lineseed oil already, and Olives (without oil yet), not sure about animal fat.

I don't get how other examples justify anything. Frying in a cauldron with water (vs frying pan) is illogical regardless of how many recipes use it.

By the way, why not to have boiled meat? And broth (?) from it? And soups?
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:44 pm

Agrik wrote:not sure about animal fat

See "Fatty Cut" both as butchered from animals (typically boars, pigs, and larger) and as a crafting recipe from 3x "any meat." You can use it to make soap, tallow candles, etc etc.

To have to manage two cauldrons, one for "frying" and another for just normal cooking, I'm willing to overlook this abstraction, at least. If the game becomes more complex in any way, I'd rather have it be for something other than cooking which is already too complex as is. (Haven as cooking simulator, anyone?)
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby Agrik » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:55 pm

I see no troubles in taking water out and pouring oil in, or vice versa. Cauldron's main purpose is not a storage, though it can be used as such.
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby borka » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:03 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Agrik wrote:not sure about animal fat

See "Fatty Cut" both as butchered from animals (typically boars, pigs, and larger) and as a crafting recipe from 3x "any meat." You can use it to make soap, tallow candles, etc etc.

To have to manage two cauldrons, one for "frying" and another for just normal cooking, I'm willing to overlook this abstraction, at least. If the game becomes more complex in any way, I'd rather have it be for something other than cooking which is already too complex as is. (Haven as cooking simulator, anyone?)


Fat cuts are done best in water bath ... and frying always means in hot oil or fat ... and yes there are as many ppl in for cooking simulator as much as are in for farming simulator ... they might be even more in numbers than those wanting a magic the gathering simulator ... :-P

But anyways ... prolly loftar and jorb just like their Köttbullar cooked in hot water better than fried ...

Did i hear someone say Wok ??

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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby Granger » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:10 pm

borka wrote:But anyways ... prolly loftar and jorb just like their Köttbullar cooked in hot water better than fried ...

Which makes perfect sense would they buy them pre-made, instead of making them from scratch.
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby borka » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:38 pm

Honestly Granger i see you seem not to know much about food preps (and microwaves) ;)

Something gets fried to create a different haptical surface than the inner ingredient. And to get certain roasted flavours you simply can't create by boiling or steaming. Be it a bird, meatballs or potatos ... that's why on the other hand i.e. Königsberger Klopse get cooked and not fried ...

To get back to the OP: as i said frying always happens in hot oils ... to get a crispy surface with roasted flavours and a soft inner fully simmered. Thus it's no wonder that Agrik worries ... sure not a bug but a small inconsistency ;)

Now: would you like a kotleta bird or a frykadelka bird ? ;)
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Re: Deep Fried Bird requires no frying +Liquids in small ves

Postby Agrik » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:26 am

borka wrote:Now: would you like a kotleta bird or a frykadelka bird ? ;)
Whatever is cooked properly. ;)

Stale juice turned into vinegar in mugs, flask, teapot, and kettle as I expected, so vinegar can exist there, but I wasn't able to pour it back in after pouring out. Looks like a bug.
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