Red handed debuff lasts too long

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Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby overtyped » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:55 am

Murdering someone shouldnt force you to wait an hour before hearthing. How about 30 minutes instead?
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby CloudJhi » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:27 am

Bob Dole should stop making so many friends then :u
Is that only for murder though? If it covers for all crimes down to trespassing I'd have to agree that is quite steep.
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby jorb » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:11 am

It covers all "serious" crimes, that is to say theft, murder, battery, and vandalism.

Bob Dole should, indeed, perhaps stop making so many friends.
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby Avu » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:39 am

Bob Dole should learn to apreciate long walks. You never know when you meet new friends. Or maybe even friends of friends who want to be friends with Bob Dole too.
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby Sevenless » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:42 pm

Perhaps factor this in when murdering random people for kicks, y'know as a cost that should discourage random murders for forum attention.

That's at least my guess as to why it was implemented.
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby Lunarius_Haberdash » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:44 pm

Wait... I thought Red Handed lasted until the scents disappeared, it only lasts an hour? What the crap is that?
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby Potjeh » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:47 pm

Debuff too short, please extend. Also, disable road travel under debuff.
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby Sevenless » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:01 pm

Red handed is a temporary debuff. The "Outlaw" debuff is what lasts until the scent vanishes (prevents logout of character).

I was pondering if red handed debuff should be cleared only by visiting your hearth fire ¦] Although that could get convoluted with teleport chains + remaking hearth fire stuffs.

Honestly though I'm not sure what a fair penalty is, and I assume at least the aim is to curb "casual murder".
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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby maze » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:03 pm

Potjeh wrote:Debuff too short, please extend. Also, disable road travel under debuff.


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Re: Red handed debuff lasts too long

Postby jorb » Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:05 pm

Sevenless wrote:Honestly though I'm not sure what a fair penalty is, and I assume at least the aim is to curb "casual murder".


More to generally curb ridiculously opportunistic acts of mayhem that can then not be avenged because you simply hearthed home immediately after committing them, and live on the other side of the world.
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