About ropes

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About ropes

Postby lordgrunt » Wed Apr 01, 2026 10:06 pm

Idea: stop allowing ropes into stockpiles, i mean, remove the idea of rope stockpile completely. it's not very useful and major issue with it is when trying to leash animal, and some of them happen to be on speed. the misclicks are aplenty, frustration is just multiplied when cursor changes to stockpile mode. As a trade off for loosing stockpiling ability, make it stackable to 5.
Alternatively, simply allow to leash when this cursor is on.
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Re: About ropes

Postby serVar161 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 3:40 am

lordgrunt wrote:Idea: stop allowing ropes into stockpiles, i mean, remove the idea of rope stockpile completely. it's not very useful and major issue with it is when trying to leash animal, and some of them happen to be on speed. the misclicks are aplenty, frustration is just multiplied when cursor changes to stockpile mode. As a trade off for loosing stockpiling ability, make it stackable to 5.
Alternatively, simply allow to leash when this cursor is on.

Ban the storage of ropes because it hard for you tie up a horse when you're drunk or high?
Just make a small pen and park your horse there when you're drunk. It won't leave even if the gate is open.
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Re: About ropes

Postby vatas » Thu Apr 02, 2026 6:38 am

Maybe ropes should be toggled into a "lasso" that can go to a belt and used to leash an animal, but not go into a stockpile (or built into a high-quality Potter's Wheel)

To not make this a QoL nightmare, maybe rope could still be placed into belt or right-clicked on an animal like before, it just automatically turns into a "lasso."

And to clarify: a "lasso" could be turned back to a rope by simply right-clicking it (while it's not used to leash for anything/not on a belt) Implied by using the phrase "toggle" which implies an on/off style switch like with Criminal Acts and Swimming.)
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Re: About ropes

Postby Regulus2424 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 7:32 am

vatas wrote:Maybe ropes should be toggled into a "lasso" that can go to a belt and used to leash an animal, but not go into a stockpile (or built into a high-quality Potter's Wheel)

To not make this a QoL nightmare, maybe rope could still be placed into belt or right-clicked on an animal like before, it just automatically turns into a "lasso."

And to clarify: a "lasso" could be turned back to a rope by simply right-clicking it (while it's not used to leash for anything/not on a belt) Implied by using the phrase "toggle" which implies an on/off style switch like with Criminal Acts and Swimming.)

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Re: About ropes

Postby Fostik » Thu Apr 02, 2026 8:57 am

serVar161 wrote:Ban the storage of ropes because it hard for you tie up a horse when you're drunk or high?


I'm not saying anything about lordgrunt as I don't know him personally, but I could imagine a lot of people with movement disorders trying to enjoy gaming overall. Simplest input commands to PC cost them more than to rest of the people, and overall stigmatizing such group of gamers making miss-clicks a punish is a bad design.

I like vatas's lasso idea, rope is material and shouldn't be a tool, but stockpile for it shouldn't be removed too. This ultimately solves the belt-building issue with ropes too.
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Re: About ropes

Postby serVar161 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 1:06 pm

Fostik wrote:I'm not saying anything about lordgrunt as I don't know him personally, but I could imagine a lot of people with movement disorders trying to enjoy gaming overall. Simplest input commands to PC cost them more than to rest of the people, and overall stigmatizing such group of gamers making miss-clicks a punish is a bad design.

I like vatas's lasso idea, rope is material and shouldn't be a tool, but stockpile for it shouldn't be removed too. This ultimately solves the belt-building issue with ropes too.

The author's problem is that, due to the effects of drugs—a floating screen—he can't hit the animal tethering post with a rope. Banning rope storage because of this is excessive.
The solution is simple:
1) Don't use drugs.
2) Don't ride (a horse) while intoxicated (including when intoxicated).
3) Build a small stall with a gate where you can safely leave your horse untied or even without closing the gate.

Regarding people with mobility issues, the problem of gameplay comfort is easier to solve with devices specifically designed for them than with gameplay. Surely you wouldn't add headshot auto-aim to Counter-Strike because there are a group of people who have difficulty aiming?

And in Haven, the entire "punishment" consists of the rope turning into a storable item, and all you have to do is right-click again to turn it back into rope.

I also like the idea of ​​automatically turning a rope into a lasso when it's on your belt - it's a neat way to solve the problem of using that rope in crafting or construction.
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Re: About ropes

Postby vatas » Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:08 pm

I think what OP meant to say, is along the lines of "sometimes, my livestock has the zoomies when I try to leash it" but because he used the word "speed" someone (very unhelpfully) jumped into drug use being the cause for this issue.
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Re: About ropes

Postby Regulus2424 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:11 pm

I like how he invented the part about OP being drunk and high (in game or irl? :? ) out of thin air and is now spewing more bullshit based on that. Would like to know if this behavior is deliberate :?
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Re: About ropes

Postby DoctorCookie » Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:28 pm

Relax, English is not his first language. It is a misread, it happens.
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Re: About ropes

Postby serVar161 » Thu Apr 02, 2026 2:33 pm

vatas wrote:I think what OP meant to say, is along the lines of "sometimes, my livestock has the zoomies when I try to leash it" but because he used the word "speed" someone (very unhelpfully) jumped into drug use being the cause for this issue.

Oh, that Google Translate! It should be fired. Yeah, that's a completely different problem.
Regarding your solution, if the lasso can't be thrown and doesn't have a long range, then nothing much will change. I don't think it's that hard to just right-click again if you miss and keep trying.
But we certainly shouldn't prohibit storing ropes.
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