Study~account wide~Banked LP

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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby CloudJhi » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:03 am

Account xyz has 3 toons.
Toon #1 puts catgold in Hearthfire mentory.
Toon #2 opens Hearthfire mentory, finds catgold still being studied.
Toon #3 claims LP banked in Hearthfire while studying its own curious in its own mentory to hurry along its development.

Am I getting this right?
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby maze » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:51 am

CloudJhi wrote:Account xyz has 3 toons.
Toon #1 puts catgold in Hearthfire mentory.
Toon #2 opens Hearthfire mentory, finds catgold still being studied.
Toon #3 claims LP banked in Hearthfire while studying its own curious in its own mentory to hurry along its development.

Am I getting this right?


Not so much about its own mentory~ i was thinking of getting rid of that part :D

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tbh- it would stop alting on a single account and make it so that you would want more accounts just to have alts with their own studys.
what would only put more money in J&L pocket, and annoy alters a little more :lol:

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Curio system needs a rework anyhow to make it less of a chore of filling up your curios.
filling up the study every time i log on and go to bed...grr
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby boshaw » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:41 am

maze wrote:tbh- it would stop alting on a single account and make it so that you would want more accounts just to have alts with their own studys.
what would only put more money in J&L pocket, and annoy alters a little more :lol:


Unless these are serious alts that need to be on for extended time the 7 hours a week is enough or 14 for verified.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby _Gunnar » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:53 am

maze wrote:and annoy alters a little more :lol:

Are you really saying that with the character development & crafting caps system you don't use alts for different professions?
early world especially there are lots of tasks you might want to spend a long time doing. If you require many subbed accounts you are making the player who spends 10x more money much stronger. I think its much nicer right now how as long as you have one sub you're sorted.

I guess this suggestion might cut down on "good" combat alts on a subbed account somewhat but it doesnt seem like a very nice solution; I like the fact that LP gain is tied to intelligence, at least.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby Minion » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:00 am

I like the suggestion but there are flaws that make it impossible to implement

1. It encourages alts on a single account, as each alt benefits from just being spawned once and never logged just stacking LP.
2. Removes half of the permadeath, if someone dies all their LP is stored in the next alt. They would only need to eat to regain stats.
3. Reduces curio consumption to a pittance. Currently alt growth is restricted by curio consumption. Yes you can mass produce crafted curios but there is a limit to foraged curios.

Good solution, too many holes though.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby maze » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:15 pm

_Gunnar wrote:
maze wrote:and annoy alters a little more :lol:

Are you really saying that with the character development & crafting caps system you don't use alts for different professions?
early world especially there are lots of tasks you might want to spend a long time doing. If you require many subbed accounts you are making the player who spends 10x more money much stronger. I think its much nicer right now how as long as you have one sub you're sorted.

I guess this suggestion might cut down on "good" combat alts on a subbed account somewhat but it doesnt seem like a very nice solution; I like the fact that LP gain is tied to intelligence, at least.

yeah your right~
then people with money would likely would just make more and more alt accounts to boost chars. le sad face.

Minion wrote:I like the suggestion but there are flaws that make it impossible to implement

1. It encourages alts on a single account, as each alt benefits from just being spawned once and never logged just stacking LP.
2. Removes half of the permadeath, if someone dies all their LP is stored in the next alt. They would only need to eat to regain stats.
3. Reduces curio consumption to a pittance. Currently alt growth is restricted by curio consumption. Yes you can mass produce crafted curios but there is a limit to foraged curios.

Good solution, too many holes though.

the 1st one~ it would de-encourage alts on single account, LP bank is shared with all toons on the account, using LP on one toon would take away from the bank.
the 2ed one~ yes-no~ the permadeath to your char and losing a high stat char is still very real. the banked LP would likely be used by more casuals then hardcores.
Also the LP from the death would be lost not the next alt.

3ed one- yes it would slow curio consumption, and as gunner said would just force us to use other accounts to keep the speed up.

IE I know the holes when I post stuff~ I would rather a discussion on building a Study system that would work.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby boreial » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:45 am

Actually the one idea I like about this thread is the 1 HF covering one account, this means that all alts on one account spawn at the same location.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby FlamingRain » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:25 pm

I dunno, as many have pointed out, there are ways to exploit this. Such as creating 20 alts on a single char and let each study cat gold and use all those LP on the same char.
Unless what you are saying is only 1 cat gold can be studied by all 20 alts at the same time?

If there is a limit on how many char each account can have, it could solve some issues, for example, only 5 char for each account.
I think 5 is pretty enough, you can have 1 craftsman, 1 fighter, 1 miner, 1 forager, 1 chore-doer.
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Re: Study~account wide~Banked LP

Postby Granger » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:50 pm

boreial wrote:Actually the one idea I like about this thread is the 1 HF covering one account, this means that all alts on one account spawn at the same location.

Yes, less hf clutter. But i dislike the part for some reasons, like when you move the fire you also move all characters of that account.

The only thing I like about the idea is to move the mentory to the fire: explains why the items are good at the end (they burn up), and gives incentive to protect the fire against theft.
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