Moving Personal Claim pole

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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby jorb » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:35 pm

Will try to look at this.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby Attas » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:01 pm

Bump.

The same should be applied to village idols.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby DatSheep » Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:53 pm

shubla wrote:
✧ wrote:possible implementation?

If you build a claim pole on a claim you already own (which would become allowed, but only if you own the claim), it destroys the old claim pole and the new pole becomes the pole for that claim. (Kindof like how building a new hearthfire turns your old one into a campfire)

I think that this is a brilliant idea!


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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:04 pm

Attas wrote:Bump.

The same should be applied to village idols.
Erm, I do not think it is a good idea. There is a strong smell of all sorts of abuse. As in moving your idol away to another location and destroying the banners that are under siege/attack.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:24 pm

LadyGoo wrote:
Attas wrote:Bump.
The same should be applied to village idols.

Erm, I do not think it is a good idea. There is a strong smell of all sorts of abuse. As in moving your idol away to another location and destroying the banners that are under siege/attack.


What if moving the idol in this way were only possible when NOT under siege/when the shield is full?
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby LadyGoo » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:09 pm

✧ wrote:
LadyGoo wrote:
Attas wrote:Bump.
The same should be applied to village idols.

Erm, I do not think it is a good idea. There is a strong smell of all sorts of abuse. As in moving your idol away to another location and destroying the banners that are under siege/attack.


What if moving the idol in this way were only possible when NOT under siege/when the shield is full?


Ergh. There are still ways of abusing it. Like, massively.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:48 pm

I guess because the claim mechanics are different w/ pclaims and vclaims.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby Attas » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:29 am

If a village is not being besieged, I don't see how changing the village idol position would give the village owners a massive advantage. Perhaps moving them to the underground would make things harder for future besiegers? I heard you could extend a village upwards now if there's a minehole allowing the expansion, so how would it be different from a village founded on L5 and extended to L0?
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:14 am

You can't move up with a claim. Only down. Unless this wasn't mentioned in patch notes, it's not one I recall seeing. (Not saying I couldn't have missed it... or maybe it was in today's stream I haven't gotten to watch yet.)

I'm with Goo on the village idol getting moved. Consequences need to be properly investigated before changes like this. I think they can all be addressed within reason, either by disallowing the mechanic or setting up special rules for easy to manage situations.
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Re: Moving Personal Claim pole

Postby Granger » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:59 am

I'm in favour to allow it for personal claims (as on these the area is fixed) but strongly against it for village idols (as these project the influence area, among other reasons).
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