Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby Fostik » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:21 am

Lets assume that devs didn't checked every dependencies on rage skill, when made rage changes in start of w11, so created this logical issue
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby Lyrroth » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:37 pm

talk about real possible sacrifice while doing this credo
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby Headchef » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:49 pm

Scholars should know about battle too and if you choose to avoid this then just abandon the task like the other half of the credo.

But the issue here is not even the issue itself, it's credo in general because it comes down to random bullshit how fast two identical players could go through it.
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby boreial » Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:44 pm

Are there any credo's that SHOULD be locked behind Rage or rage dependent acts?
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby Headchef » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:03 am

boreial wrote:Are there any credo's that SHOULD be locked behind Rage or rage dependent acts?


There are none, people can easily abandon and just do other quests.


Are there any credos that SHOULD be locked behind golden egg ownership?
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:06 am

boreial wrote:Are there any credo's that SHOULD be locked behind Rage or rage dependent acts?

There's a few suggested in C&I. I would suggest carrying on such conversations in those suggestions.

As far as the comment on if this should be here or C&I, for now, it's in Bugs until we can get a confirmation that it was an oversight, intentional, or something in between.
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby Dakkan » Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:43 am

jorb wrote:You can trade for effigies, or actually have rage. See no problem there.

From private correspondence on the exact same issue.
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:37 am

Thanks for that, Dakkan. Moved to C&I.
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby abt79 » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:16 pm

Dakkan wrote:
jorb wrote:You can trade for effigies, or actually have rage. See no problem there.

From private correspondence on the exact same issue.


You can’t trade for the ability to make effigies as the OP showed. As for getting rage, should scholar credo really incentivize making your character killable? Not saying it shouldn’t but that our dear developers might do well to examine how these systems interact, especially since Scholar is a credo most competitive players consider “one of the required ones”

That being said, this is certainly an unintended effect of various systems interacting, rather than an explicit bug
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Re: Scholar requires me to make dark effigy

Postby SnuggleSnail » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:51 pm

I feel like you guys are addressing symptoms while ignoring the disease.

1) People without rage being immortal is the least heterosexual thing imaginable
2) Scholar is absurdly overpowered, and it being shitty to get wouldn't be nearly as problematic if that weren't the case
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