Please calm down with the needless wounds

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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby Fostik » Thu May 06, 2021 8:46 am

Colesie, you became too irritated against the game.
See no any problems with birds lung, a simple wound when you putting your head in a bird house full of their shitties, not doing anything really bad, except explaining you that you don't need to bother birds that often (it causes birbs to leave nests)
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby jordancoles » Thu May 06, 2021 8:50 am

Fostik wrote:Colesie, you became too irritated against the game.

Jorb and Loftar are not making it easy to enjoy their game anymore.

There are certain things in this game now that make me absolutely irritable and it is mostly because I've been here for so long and have seen them consistently stomp on their own creation through convolution and tedium.
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby TheTylerLee » Thu May 06, 2021 2:00 pm

I have a 26ql broken bone which requires a week to heal.. for a week I can't use my hand...
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby DDDsDD999 » Thu May 06, 2021 3:43 pm

Wounds should be a punishment for an "oh I messed up" thing. But jorb just adds wounds to every basic task, for no real reason, and none of them make any sense, you just have to know all of the arbitrary things that cause wounds.
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby Zentetsuken » Thu May 06, 2021 4:11 pm

I could see things like birdlung and beesting, and the wounds that are "punishment for doing an already menial task" being okay if the wound happened really rarely and accompanied something fun and cool along with it.

Like if beesting happened 5-10% of the time and "a bee that stung" was actually a pretty good curio, that would be more fun? I don't think it would be something anything would bother to farm and it would sort of balance the fact that you have the bullshit wound to deal with.

Same for Bird Lung, maybe if it came alongside some weird curio like a "bird pellet" that was actually pretty decent and only happened a small percent of the time??

100% agree with Ziggy here tho, if you fuck up then a wound is a learning process, but if you get punished for no reason then it's like a bizarre act of god, atleast make it rare, atleast make it a weird experience event, or give us a reasonable way to prevent it?

Wearing a scarf over your mouth when you open the bird house should help, no?
Wearing full clothing when playing with beehives should help, no?

Or finally consider a mastery system, if we harvest beeswax 100 times we should be so proficient at it that being stung should be a non-issue, it wouldn't wound us, our bodies would be used to it or it would simply never happen. We should get immunities or invisible buffs similar to what happens when you complete a dungeon.
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby SnuggleSnail » Thu May 06, 2021 4:52 pm

I think it's rly funny that for a low stated player picking up 3 or 4 crabs/hedgehogs/nettles/being near midges will consistently result in enough wounds that they will often die if KOed, but people who are having less fun by not playing normally, or who have high stats are basically immune to this.

pretty epic prank within the context of the 10 different patches meant to make it harder to kill plebs
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby fallout » Thu May 06, 2021 5:03 pm

shubla wrote:oh no help i got only 556/556/558 hp pls im dying time to make fifth alt for this mundane task that I do once a week to avoid the terrible deadly wounds cursed be devs time to quit the game

Just get 1000 con you nablets, then you can completely ignore the wound mechanic exists. its good gameplay
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby Reiber » Sun May 09, 2021 12:49 am

honestly i sorta bumrushed an dovecote in the early game because it dosn´t need straw. and i regretted it, looked inside after an day, no birds no shit no eggs, but birdlung, took me on 39 hhp due too earlygame animal encounters previously.
checked it again after 4 days. birdlung, one egg,some shit no birds.

i just didn´t bother with carrier pidgeons after that, the mechanic is neat, and i devinitely are gonna keep an pidgeon around my house. but its only borderline usefull, like if i get attacked, forgot too alt my keys away, but remembered to take my pidgeon with me , my inherited char can open the house again. sure

or i trade pearls on risky routes now on an naked alt with 20 doves in its inventory,

but hey. they are neat. i love that it is there. i can send my pipe home when it´s empty, equip idk, an borewormmask? and save an iventoryspace when i´m out and want too make the colours change while hunting i guess?
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby loleznub » Sun May 09, 2021 3:13 am

Since wounds are a big part of the game and are meant to cause us to think about our actions, can we get wounds for wearing shoes added?

Our hearthlings don't wear socks and all those clogs surely cause TONS of blisters. I'd say reducing speed by 5% (walking) and when going 3rd or 4th speed it causes a stacking wound to apply to the blister. Would make the game much more realistic. If you really wanted to flesh this out, you could have different wounds for shoe type (bunny slippers maybe don't actually protect your feet so when in terrain that you can't go 4th speed on, you have random chance to roll your ankle / get your foot pierced??)

You could even add in a new "sock" slot for nettle socks, cloth socks, and silk socks to reduce the chance of these wounds appearing
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Re: Please calm down with the needless wounds

Postby Pills » Sun May 09, 2021 3:33 am

ZantetsukenX wrote:the existence of bird lung was enough for me to just not bother with that mechanic at all. Like why does it even exist?


Same. I opened it once and got bird lung instantly, that was enough to tell me its not worth ever trying to use a dovecot or get pigeons.

I think people arguing that its ok as it is because eventually you'll have enough to not care, but really there's just no reason for the wound to exist for such a low-key object. Atleast with bee-hives you get actually useful stuff from them.
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