Watch it's moves is perhaps the worst move in the game

by **vatas** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:43 pm

Yep, "Watch it's moves" is a shitty tool, but it's an alternative to not having any tool at all. (Tool in this context; IP generator.)

by **Robben_DuMarsch** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:05 pm

Watch its moves should provide -1 IP to the opponent.

by **HasseKebab** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:02 pm

It's definitely way too shitty considering you have to be in physical contact with the opponent, there's no excusing that tbh. It should have a bigger upside than currently.

by **overtyped** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:51 pm

Robben_DuMarsch wrote:Watch its moves should provide -1 IP to the opponent.

That makes sense thematically. You watch their moves/predict what they are going to do, thus reducing their initiative/ip.

by **VDZ** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:08 pm

overtyped wrote:
Robben_DuMarsch wrote:Watch its moves should provide -1 IP to the opponent.

That makes sense thematically. You watch their moves/predict what they are going to do, thus reducing their initiative/ip.

Isn't watching and waiting the opposite of taking the initiative?

by **overtyped** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:27 pm

VDZ wrote:
overtyped wrote:
Robben_DuMarsch wrote:Watch its moves should provide -1 IP to the opponent.

That makes sense thematically. You watch their moves/predict what they are going to do, thus reducing their initiative/ip.

Isn't watching and waiting the opposite of taking the initiative?

Sun Tzu would have something to say about that.

by **VDZ** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:37 pm

overtyped wrote:
VDZ wrote:Isn't watching and waiting the opposite of taking the initiative?

Sun Tzu would have something to say about that.

Sun Tzu wrote:Rapidity is the essence of war: take advantage of the enemy's unreadiness, make your way by unexpected routes, and attack unguarded spots.

Once you're in battle, you should already be ready to fight. Preparation should happen before the battle, not during it. According to Sun Tzu, at least.

by **overtyped** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:15 am

VDZ wrote:
overtyped wrote:
VDZ wrote:Isn't watching and waiting the opposite of taking the initiative?

Sun Tzu would have something to say about that.

Sun Tzu wrote:Rapidity is the essence of war: take advantage of the enemy's unreadiness, make your way by unexpected routes, and attack unguarded spots.

Once you're in battle, you should already be ready to fight. Preparation should happen before the battle, not during it. According to Sun Tzu, at least.

Meh, what did that loser Sun Tzu even know. He's just a nerd who wrote a book nobody reads.

by **Audiosmurf** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:18 am

They should balance this by adding moves that are worse

by **overtyped** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:29 am

Audiosmurf wrote:They should balance this by adding moves that are worse

Like, remove one ip from yourself to give opponant, for 30 cd?

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